You don't have to apologise, because you're absolutely right!
I updated the game and played a little! It was fun for a couple of minutes, then it got very repetitive since all you get to do is fulfill their needs, but there's no meaningful interactions whatsoever, any. Infants don't have any skills or nothing you can teach them or help them with, so it all comes down to paying constant attention to them without any compensation, their gameplay feel a little plain without the pack.
It's too bad because I don't want to have a giant world or big changes in the dynamics that the pack brings, only to have fun with a single feature that should have been attached to infants in the update already.
They could have added lots of cute, extra content for infants in the pack to compensate, since it supposedly brings lots of new family content, and doesn't focus on *infants* alone.
I'm thinking on baby carriers options, more toys, even the quirks would be okay for the pack, but definitely not something that feels so substantial to the new lifestage.
It's kinda meh 😣
I believe in Infants can also play around with toddler and children’s toys….
I forgot something important about Social Compatibility ... Nobody have preferences set in the game yet.
I control 40 households so I must set Likes/Dislikes Sim Characteristics and Conversation Topics for all of them one by one ...
I didn't finish to add Fingernails/toenails, Body hair and Sexual Orientation yet.
I just went through a test household of eight sims, setting their Characteristics and Conversations likes/dislikes.
I think I overdid it and I will pull back on the number that I set. Traits already set compatibility to some extent. I think I will just use them to reinforce their personalities and set what they might like in other sims.
The weird thing is going into other households to find that sims that were their best friend now have awful compatibility.
This is problematic for established saves.
Why Slob trait is a negative thing as a Sim Characteristics ?
I mean a countryside sim who work hard as a farmer isn't somebody lazy without ambition.
Another stereotype by Maxis, Slob = Homeless
The word slob is a negative one though. Slob = a person who is lazy and has low standards of cleanliness. That’s from the dictionary.
In the U.K. generally you think of fat and lazy people with this word. Not so much homeless. But it’s an odd trait to choose for hardworking farmer. It’s the sims though, they can be hard working thin slobs 😁
My only problem with this pack is the world. And the world itself is not *that* bad but it's the trees that bother me. Every tree in almost every world is so samey. Like there are sooooooooo many different types of trees in the world with all types of forms, shapes and colors. But I feel like we get the same tree over and over in the same color. 🥲
I think filling this world with unique trees could have made it stand out.
Hate the world! Hate all the fake dead space! The lots make no sense. there's a lot with a normal house on it and surrounding it is tall fake building/apartments on both sides, it sticks out like a sore thumb!
And the residential neighbhorhood is a joke to me, there's more fake houses than there are lots for "real sims" to live in!
Plus, a $40 pack should not have visual glitches in CAS if it was truly play-tested! Yes, I've already "Me Too'd" and showed my screenshots in a Bug Report someone else started.
You don't have to apologise, because you're absolutely right!
I updated the game and played a little! It was fun for a couple of minutes, then it got very repetitive since all you get to do is fulfill their needs, but there's no meaningful interactions whatsoever, any. Infants don't have any skills or nothing you can teach them or help them with, so it all comes down to paying constant attention to them without any compensation, their gameplay feel a little plain without the pack.
Honestly, this is exactly why I've never understood some simmers' enthusiasm for "freeing the babies." The best babies we ever had were the ones in Sims 2, and I still would have aged them immediately if I had had the option. Babies have never been that interesting. I think some of this is You-can't-take-that-away-from-me Syndrome. If people had something previously, they automatically feel cheated if they no longer have it, even if it's not at all interesting/valuable.
-No, my almost-elderly mother, I don't think it's a good time for you to try for a baby.
-Yes, person I barely know, you have my blessing to hang out with Johnny Zest.
-No person with the mean, hot-headed and self-absorbed traits, I don't think you should get married.
My only problem with this pack is the world. And the world itself is not *that* bad but it's the trees that bother me. Every tree in almost every world is so samey. Like there are sooooooooo many different types of trees in the world with all types of forms, shapes and colors. But I feel like we get the same tree over and over in the same color. 🥲
I think filling this world with unique trees could have made it stand out.
Maybe they spent too much time in developing all the fake houses and cars that there was no more left for better trees.
There are worlds with different types of trees like Sulani, Mt Komorebi or Selvadorada.
I can't seem to get the 'Go 12 hours without a negative need moodlet' to work. Like I have micromanaged her for a couple sim days now and none of them have even sunk to amber... She has had other negatives as she is hot headed, but as it is specifically said NEED surely that shouldn't impact it?
My only problem with this pack is the world. And the world itself is not *that* bad but it's the trees that bother me. Every tree in almost every world is so samey. Like there are sooooooooo many different types of trees in the world with all types of forms, shapes and colors. But I feel like we get the same tree over and over in the same color. 🥲
I think filling this world with unique trees could have made it stand out.
Maybe they spent too much time in developing all the fake houses and cars that there was no more left for better trees.
There are worlds with different types of trees like Sulani, Mt Komorebi or Selvadorada.
Yes that's why those are on my list of best worlds along with granite falls and moonwood mills. They truly have different trees and look unique in other ways.
However, I'm not going too hard on the world because I personally think they have outdid themselves with the rest of the pack so I wouldn't tear it down over some world issues, especially when we have so many other worlds to still choose from.
I just hope we see more variety in the future and one day finally get a fantasy type world. I want to play in a fantasy setting and cannot find a befitting world to do so 🙏🙏🙏
I do think they’re in a difficult spot when it comes to worlds. Not all packs really need a world but people get upset if there isn’t one. I heard a youtuber complain yesterday that there is no world in seasons. Simmers expect it.
So they are somewhat pushed into making worlds that don’t get as much development as worlds like Sulani or Komorebi as their worlds were the main feature of the pack.
Growing Together isn’t really about a world, it’s features are all about family and things. So I guess it’s fairer to compare it to willow creek than Sulani. And it is better than willow creek.
Hate the world! Hate all the fake dead space! The lots make no sense. there's a lot with a normal house on it and surrounding it is tall fake building/apartments on both sides, it sticks out like a sore thumb!
My solution was to fix it and turn it in to a restaurant. I'll be working on that other brown one at some point to get it to fit with the area too
I didn't find Sim Characteristics for these traits :
High Maintenance (Spa Day)
Unflirty (City Living)
Foodie
Maker (Eco Lifestyle)
Adventurous (Snowy Escape)
Child of the Islands (Island Living)
Child of the Ocean (Island Living)
Dance Machine (Get Together)
Erratic
Freegan (Eco Lifestyle)
Glutton
Green Fiend (Eco Lifestyle)
Lactose Intolerant (Cottage Living)
Overachiever (High School Years)
Recycle Disciple (Eco Lifestyle)
Squeamish (Outdoor Retreat)
Insider (Get Together)
Loyal
Paranoid (StrangerVille)
Party Animal (High School Years)
Proper (Snowy Escape)
Self-Absorbed (Get Famous)
Socially Awkward (High School Years)
I don't know what to think about the balance of the Sim Characteristics :
Active : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Cheerful : 2 Positive / 1 Negative
Creative : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Genius : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Gloomy : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Goofball : 2 Positive / 1 Negative
Hot-Headed : 2 Positive
Romantic : 1 Positive
Self-Assured : 1 Negative
Art Lover : 1 Positive
Bookworm : 2 Positive
Geek : 1 Positive
Music Lover : 1 Positive
Perfectionist : 1 Positive
Ambitious : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Animal Enthusiast : 1 Positive
Cat Lover : 1 Positive
Childish : 1 Positive
Clumsy : 1 Positive
Dog Lover : 1 Positive
Kleptomaniac : 1 Positive
Lazy : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Loves Outdoors : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Materialistic : 1 Positive
Neat : 1 Positive
Slob : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Snob : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Vegetarian : 1 Positive
Bro : 1 Positive
Evil : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Family-oriented : 1 Positive
Good : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Hates Children : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Jealous : 2 Positive
Loner : 1 Positive
Mean : 2 Positive
Noncommittal : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Outgoing : 1 Positive
For example :
Hot-headed + Bookworm + Jealous combo could collect up to 6 points.
Is that list based just on the descriptions in CAS? In the livestream the gurus clarified that only the base game traits were listed in the descriptions (since they had to suit all players) but traits from all existing packs (and lifestyles from SE) are taken into account for the relevant compatibilities. I suspect most of the pack traits you listed are actually covered, just not mentioned in the descriptions.
Growing Together isn’t really about a world, it’s features are all about family and things. So I guess it’s fairer to compare it to willow creek than Sulani. And it is better than willow creek.
I agree with most of what you've said here, but hard disagree with this last statement. IMO, Willow Creek is superior in many ways. More lots, and they are closer together so it feels like a real neighborhood, a hidden lot/world, more fishing spots, more usable non-lot spaces out in the world. The only bonus points I would give to San Sequoia are the splash park and the (one and only) spot to swim in the world.
So far it's going okay with my playthrough. The weird rigging/routing when a newborn/infant gets stuck to your sim when you aren't carrying them or just laying them on the ground, and they attach to the sim's feet. Like yikes man. Fix it EA.
I've never posted in one of these threads before. I tried 3 times to have a science baby. It charged my sim the fee and sent her back home with nothing. So I gave her an infant in manage worlds. All it does is scream and cry. This is not fun in any way. I really wanted science babies but now I'm gonna just skip the whole thing and give my sims toddlers when they are ready to start a family.
I'll never get over how they managed to make a world supposedly based on San Francisco yet totally left out the "painted ladies" houses. Nothing about this place says San Fran to me but maybe I'm just a clueless European. And way too much wasted space as per usual.
The trait/ attraction system is a problem too. It's very late into the game, literally, to be introducing this. I'm so scared some long standing relationships are going to be ruined.
Yeah, one of my saves played earlier. Moved a sim into the new area, and like hours after I moved her in, a former best friend came by... Needless to say, I found that in order to get the freeloaders [basically] to leave, I ended up moving several needed items to household inventory. The "guest" left soon after.
They were not getting along well, that was obvious...
Growing Together isn’t really about a world, it’s features are all about family and things. So I guess it’s fairer to compare it to willow creek than Sulani. And it is better than willow creek.
I agree with most of what you've said here, but hard disagree with this last statement. IMO, Willow Creek is superior in many ways. More lots, and they are closer together so it feels like a real neighborhood, a hidden lot/world, more fishing spots, more usable non-lot spaces out in the world. The only bonus points I would give to San Sequoia are the splash park and the (one and only) spot to swim in the world.
Yes I thought after I said it about the number of lots and things to do is actually better in willow creek 😁.
I do think the backdrop and general aesthetic in SS is better - you can tell which one was designed more recently and the bridge and wharf etc are better set dressing than anything in the early worlds.
But those early worlds benefit from the amount of lots they had and the closer together feel like you say.
I didn't find Sim Characteristics for these traits :
High Maintenance (Spa Day)
Unflirty (City Living)
Foodie
Maker (Eco Lifestyle)
Adventurous (Snowy Escape)
Child of the Islands (Island Living)
Child of the Ocean (Island Living)
Dance Machine (Get Together)
Erratic
Freegan (Eco Lifestyle)
Glutton
Green Fiend (Eco Lifestyle)
Lactose Intolerant (Cottage Living)
Overachiever (High School Years)
Recycle Disciple (Eco Lifestyle)
Squeamish (Outdoor Retreat)
Insider (Get Together)
Loyal
Paranoid (StrangerVille)
Party Animal (High School Years)
Proper (Snowy Escape)
Self-Absorbed (Get Famous)
Socially Awkward (High School Years)
I don't know what to think about the balance of the Sim Characteristics :
Active : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Cheerful : 2 Positive / 1 Negative
Creative : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Genius : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Gloomy : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Goofball : 2 Positive / 1 Negative
Hot-Headed : 2 Positive
Romantic : 1 Positive
Self-Assured : 1 Negative
Art Lover : 1 Positive
Bookworm : 2 Positive
Geek : 1 Positive
Music Lover : 1 Positive
Perfectionist : 1 Positive
Ambitious : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Animal Enthusiast : 1 Positive
Cat Lover : 1 Positive
Childish : 1 Positive
Clumsy : 1 Positive
Dog Lover : 1 Positive
Kleptomaniac : 1 Positive
Lazy : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Loves Outdoors : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Materialistic : 1 Positive
Neat : 1 Positive
Slob : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Snob : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Vegetarian : 1 Positive
Bro : 1 Positive
Evil : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Family-oriented : 1 Positive
Good : 1 Positive / 2 Negative
Hates Children : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Jealous : 2 Positive
Loner : 1 Positive
Mean : 2 Positive
Noncommittal : 1 Positive / 1 Negative
Outgoing : 1 Positive
For example :
Hot-headed + Bookworm + Jealous combo could collect up to 6 points.
I looked in Sims 4 Studio... Maker, Foodie, Erratic, Glutton, Lactose Intolerant, Squeamish and Loyal doesn't count for in any Sim Characteristics... Their others Traits are at least in one... Lifestyles, Aspiration Traits are include but not all them
I haven’t played much as it took so long to download but I’m not keen on the new world. The treehouse takes up a lot of space and there’s not a lot of vacant lots to put houses down.
I'm disappointed about the CAS. Not for everyone something; no shoes. No accessories except 1 pair of earrings. I think it's sad. Furthermore CAS looks quite good.
I'm disappointed about the CAS. Not for everyone something; no shoes. No accessories except 1 pair of earrings. I think it's sad. Furthermore CAS looks quite good.
I thought I saw 2 necklaces as well in the pictures. I think this pack focused mostly on game play. But, I believe they also added a lot of birthmarks, freckles, and moles. I think children got different types of teeth. Infants and toddlers got new quirks I think, and children got some new aspirations.
I can't seem to get the 'Go 12 hours without a negative need moodlet' to work. Like I have micromanaged her for a couple sim days now and none of them have even sunk to amber... She has had other negatives as she is hot headed, but as it is specifically said NEED surely that shouldn't impact it?
Does sleeping count? If so when you get all good moods maybe send them to sleep, but keep all needs up
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I believe in Infants can also play around with toddler and children’s toys….
I just went through a test household of eight sims, setting their Characteristics and Conversations likes/dislikes.
I think I overdid it and I will pull back on the number that I set. Traits already set compatibility to some extent. I think I will just use them to reinforce their personalities and set what they might like in other sims.
The weird thing is going into other households to find that sims that were their best friend now have awful compatibility.
This is problematic for established saves.
The word slob is a negative one though. Slob = a person who is lazy and has low standards of cleanliness. That’s from the dictionary.
In the U.K. generally you think of fat and lazy people with this word. Not so much homeless. But it’s an odd trait to choose for hardworking farmer. It’s the sims though, they can be hard working thin slobs 😁
I think filling this world with unique trees could have made it stand out.
And the residential neighbhorhood is a joke to me, there's more fake houses than there are lots for "real sims" to live in!
Plus, a $40 pack should not have visual glitches in CAS if it was truly play-tested! Yes, I've already "Me Too'd" and showed my screenshots in a Bug Report someone else started.
-Yes, person I barely know, you have my blessing to hang out with Johnny Zest.
-No person with the mean, hot-headed and self-absorbed traits, I don't think you should get married.
Maybe they spent too much time in developing all the fake houses and cars that there was no more left for better trees.
There are worlds with different types of trees like Sulani, Mt Komorebi or Selvadorada.
I can't seem to get the 'Go 12 hours without a negative need moodlet' to work. Like I have micromanaged her for a couple sim days now and none of them have even sunk to amber... She has had other negatives as she is hot headed, but as it is specifically said NEED surely that shouldn't impact it?
Yes that's why those are on my list of best worlds along with granite falls and moonwood mills. They truly have different trees and look unique in other ways.
However, I'm not going too hard on the world because I personally think they have outdid themselves with the rest of the pack so I wouldn't tear it down over some world issues, especially when we have so many other worlds to still choose from.
I just hope we see more variety in the future and one day finally get a fantasy type world. I want to play in a fantasy setting and cannot find a befitting world to do so 🙏🙏🙏
So they are somewhat pushed into making worlds that don’t get as much development as worlds like Sulani or Komorebi as their worlds were the main feature of the pack.
Growing Together isn’t really about a world, it’s features are all about family and things. So I guess it’s fairer to compare it to willow creek than Sulani. And it is better than willow creek.
My solution was to fix it and turn it in to a restaurant. I'll be working on that other brown one at some point to get it to fit with the area too
Is that list based just on the descriptions in CAS? In the livestream the gurus clarified that only the base game traits were listed in the descriptions (since they had to suit all players) but traits from all existing packs (and lifestyles from SE) are taken into account for the relevant compatibilities. I suspect most of the pack traits you listed are actually covered, just not mentioned in the descriptions.
The Sims 4 hasn't introduced a new musical instrument since 2017
I agree with most of what you've said here, but hard disagree with this last statement. IMO, Willow Creek is superior in many ways. More lots, and they are closer together so it feels like a real neighborhood, a hidden lot/world, more fishing spots, more usable non-lot spaces out in the world. The only bonus points I would give to San Sequoia are the splash park and the (one and only) spot to swim in the world.
The trait/ attraction system is a problem too. It's very late into the game, literally, to be introducing this. I'm so scared some long standing relationships are going to be ruined.
They were not getting along well, that was obvious...
Yes I thought after I said it about the number of lots and things to do is actually better in willow creek 😁.
I do think the backdrop and general aesthetic in SS is better - you can tell which one was designed more recently and the bridge and wharf etc are better set dressing than anything in the early worlds.
But those early worlds benefit from the amount of lots they had and the closer together feel like you say.
I bought, downloaded and installed that new pack for my game today.
So far it hasn't actually showed up in my game.
So yeah total negative from me EA\Maxis.
I looked in Sims 4 Studio... Maker, Foodie, Erratic, Glutton, Lactose Intolerant, Squeamish and Loyal doesn't count for in any Sim Characteristics... Their others Traits are at least in one... Lifestyles, Aspiration Traits are include but not all them
I thought I saw 2 necklaces as well in the pictures. I think this pack focused mostly on game play. But, I believe they also added a lot of birthmarks, freckles, and moles. I think children got different types of teeth. Infants and toddlers got new quirks I think, and children got some new aspirations.