Any Kimono expert out there?

I'm having fun playing my new pack Snowy Escape, and like I always do I spend tons of time setting the local history and culture etc. In my universe this world is part of an Empire with a different culture, and I try to make locals avoid items and outfits that crash too much.

About kimonos there are quite a few versions available. I did some research, leaning that red and purple is to be used only by the higher classes, and that bright colors in general are used by younger, while elders obviously stick to less colors. So, in general I assume that a poor elder will basically wear grey or low-key colors, and a successful young adult will wear brighter colors and more patterns.

But there are a few elements on the outfits that I assume have some symbolism, either referring to rank or married or not. Some have a tuft hanging from a thin rope from neck. There are different belts and other hanging stuff that might indicate something. I love to get it all right, and I think it would be quite embarrassing having a sim wearing totally wrong kimono.

I don't care about seasons etc, because playing on rotation it would mean adjusting these outfits all the time. I'm more referring of their class, and perhaps age.

Even if you are no expert but know one detail, please post :)
Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
a.jpg

Comments

  • Ninja-Dan22Ninja-Dan22 Posts: 90 Member
    I think the male kimono with the tuft on a rope is a traditional wedding outfit? But I could be wrong.
  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,612 Member
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    I think the male kimono with the tuft on a rope is a traditional wedding outfit? But I could be wrong.

    Ah, so the tuft could symbolize marriage then? Hm, as in a knot, btw ;) There is a rather modern female outfit with the tuft, it doesn't look much like a wedding outfit, but perhaps it is used by married women in general. I know I can make up my own rules, and this might be one, LOL.
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,612 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?

    Sorry - I'm not sure. I meant that we could have Sims wear the festival kimonos for the festivals. I'm not sure what local Sims wear. Not all of the traditional looking Japanese outfits should be formal wear though because if I recall correctly some of them look like everyday yukata or what you would wear if you were at a hotel/inn and aren't formal.
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?

    Sorry - I'm not sure. I meant that we could have Sims wear the festival kimonos for the festivals. I'm not sure what local Sims wear. Not all of the traditional looking Japanese outfits should be formal wear though because if I recall correctly some of them look like everyday yukata or what you would wear if you were at a hotel/inn and aren't formal.

    That sounds like the "bath kimono", worn at baths and in Summer. I like there are several versions in the game, and I can just make my own set of rules. I like there to be some, because especially traditional locals (I now by dna who have traditional or modern mindset :) ) will wear a kimono on a formal family photo/portrait, and it would be cool if their outfit tells a story. Imagining a sim watching the portrait of a grandmother, and seeing from the kimono where in the community she used to be. It will also make it more interesting dressing them up for a formal event, and - not the least, there will be fewer options per sim, lol.
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • StarfreeStarfree Posts: 1,174 Member
    edited January 7
    You can buy festival kimonos from vending machines at the festival with one option being to buy & wear the kimono. Can't remember if sims will automatically change in to that kimono the next time they attend a mt. komerebi festival or not.
  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,612 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?

    Sorry - I'm not sure. I meant that we could have Sims wear the festival kimonos for the festivals. I'm not sure what local Sims wear. Not all of the traditional looking Japanese outfits should be formal wear though because if I recall correctly some of them look like everyday yukata or what you would wear if you were at a hotel/inn and aren't formal.

    That sounds like the "bath kimono", worn at baths and in Summer. I like there are several versions in the game, and I can just make my own set of rules. I like there to be some, because especially traditional locals (I now by dna who have traditional or modern mindset :) ) will wear a kimono on a formal family photo/portrait, and it would be cool if their outfit tells a story. Imagining a sim watching the portrait of a grandmother, and seeing from the kimono where in the community she used to be. It will also make it more interesting dressing them up for a formal event, and - not the least, there will be fewer options per sim, lol.
    That is a yukata. It you want to be kind of accurate, I would just be careful to not mix those up with the more formal kimono, but again, I wouldn't take it that seriously because I don't think there's anything that's super formal anyway.
  • JustinB113JustinB113 Posts: 917 Member
    edited January 9
    There is one you can buy exclusively at the light festival. The sims at the festival tend to either wear that or some of the CAS outfits. I believe they only wear them at the festival of light and wear normal clothes at the other festivals.

    It doesn’t have any swatches though as far as I remember, it’s yellow and honestly I don’t think it’s that nice but might suit a particular sim in your game if you’re looking at royalty and things.

    The best outfits of this type I found were in CAS but I’m not sure how accurate they are to Japan or what the colors symbolise.
  • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 6,429 Member
    I'm not an expert at any of the Asian outfits. However, I do so love the ancient outfits, the ancient objects, the festivals & Mt. Komorebi.
  • SimmingalSimmingal Posts: 7,362 Member
    edited January 9
    no expert but if I'm only using the traditional wear I usually have yukata one as more casual everyday/ hot weather/ onsen wear and the other one for everyday, formal, party or cold weather (since more layers)

    as for festivals I think both are okay in suitable weather

    and colors I actually tend to dress older sims more bold and vibrant because young and pretty are pretty in anything i don't feel they need to go the extra mile to be fashionable

    but also yes grey and beige grandmas and grandpas are also present where the sims are more eco friendly and less fashion forward
    Post edited by Simmingal on
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    How about the one (male only?) looking very modern almost like a skiing suit? Is this also considered a kimono? And is it suitable for any particular occasion, or simply a modern version? It looks less comfortable, so perhaps it's a fashion version? :wink:
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • SimmingalSimmingal Posts: 7,362 Member
    edited January 11
    Idk which one you mean cause no pictures :sweat_smile: but there is full body black suit thing for males that is japanese school uniform if thats the one
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    edited January 11
    Simmingal wrote: »
    Idk which one you mean cause no pictures :sweat_smile: but there is full body black suit thing for males that is japanese school uniform if thats the one

    Found a picture online (sorry for borrowing it from someone not asked, but I guess it's safe in a discussion...)

    I mean the 3rd outfit in the picture. It comes in many swatches, not only camoflage versions. Is it a mix of skiing outfit and a kimono? I get it in CAS with kimonos in everyday wear I think (not Cold wear)
    proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fd8wcrkqr7d1hl.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F11%2FSEREVcas1.jpg&sp=1673466897Tb48a73ce75ee0b6780464c51f511a2d24da99884b8b10ed7bb99172fb5372813

    Adding: well seeing it like that including gloves and booths I realize it's for the winter sports... perhaps it was just weirdly categorized in CAS...
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • BlueR0seBlueR0se Posts: 1,503 Member
    Simmingal wrote: »
    Idk which one you mean cause no pictures :sweat_smile: but there is full body black suit thing for males that is japanese school uniform if thats the one

    Found a picture online (sorry for borrowing it from someone not asked, but I guess it's safe in a discussion...)

    I mean the 3rd outfit in the picture. It comes in many swatches, not only camoflage versions. Is it a mix of skiing outfit and a kimono? I get it in CAS with kimonos in everyday wear I think (not Cold wear)
    proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fd8wcrkqr7d1hl.cloudfront.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F11%2FSEREVcas1.jpg&sp=1673466897Tb48a73ce75ee0b6780464c51f511a2d24da99884b8b10ed7bb99172fb5372813

    Adding: well seeing it like that including gloves and booths I realize it's for the winter sports... perhaps it was just weirdly categorized in CAS...

    3rd one just looks like a skiing outfit to me.
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    My bad. I should have checked the Winter wear category. I guess I was confused by seeing this outfit in the everyday category next to a kimono, lol.
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 6,429 Member
    Just a tip. If you want to actually see all the Snow Escape outfits just go into CAS, type Ctrl Shift C buttons on your keyboard then type CAS.UNLOCKBYTAG that will let you see all the outfits plus the accessories. ;)
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 25,156 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?

    The local will wear whatever is the first slot in the category. What I found amusing, is I know I took the time to assign clothing for my two ancestral households, and yet, one of the daughters in the second household was wearing totally modern clothes despite my assigning 18th century clothes to her. face/palm. I went right back into cas.fulleditmode, to fix that. Seems she only had one set of clothes in the category. I fixed that. We'll see if that holds. So, don't be surprised if the locals end up in what have you.
    You can download (free) all three volumes of my Night Whispers Star Trek Fanfiction here: http://galacticgal.deviantart.com/gallery/ You'll need to have a pdf reader. New websites: http://www.trekkiefanfiction.com/st-tos.php
    http://www.getfreeebooks.com/star-trek-original-series-fan-fiction-trilogy/
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    haneul wrote: »
    I wouldn't take it that seriously. Mt. Komorebi is a made up place and the Japanese-inspired clothes in game aren't all that correct anyway. The general idea is that Sims will wear the festival kimono during the festivals.

    Oh, I didn't play any of the festivals yet.

    Will all locals wear kimonos regardless of what I assign their outfit categories? Say, one of the households is very modern and not having kimono for their formal wear etc. Will hey still be seen wearing kimono as NPC during festivals?

    The local will wear whatever is the first slot in the category. What I found amusing, is I know I took the time to assign clothing for my two ancestral households, and yet, one of the daughters in the second household was wearing totally modern clothes despite my assigning 18th century clothes to her. face/palm. I went right back into cas.fulleditmode, to fix that. Seems she only had one set of clothes in the category. I fixed that. We'll see if that holds. So, don't be surprised if the locals end up in what have you.

    I had my first festival, and most random sims showed up in a kimono, also those from other worlds being tourists and never had a kimono assigned to their cas category. For all sims with a slightly traditional mindset in Mt.K I assign them a kimono as first choice in both formal and party category, and for some I did add a slightly more modern alternative as the 2nd choice. It's no big deal to me if a sim picks 1 or 2, as long as it is not a horrible "situational outfit" that at times breaks all the fun with this game. Seeing my elderly duchess in a random strange outfit including nose piercing is *not* fun - regardless of occasion.
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    In case anyone cares, I came up with a few imperial kimono rules/traditions, but decided to make it more simple than I originally wanted:

    1. Red + Indigo is reserved highest class families (kurai-ichi).
    2. Younger sims will normally use stronger colors/patterns than elders.
    3. The "tuft" meaning marriage, so unmarried sims will not use those versions.
    4. Also, regular households stick to the earth colored shoes (forgot their name), while younger/modern members of upper class families more often choose a colored version (in my culture there are 7 "protected families" seen as upper class, not necessarily due to wealth).
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
  • LMN600LMN600 Posts: 1 New Member
    > @Simmerville said:
    > I'm having fun playing my new pack Snowy Escape, and like I always do I spend tons of time setting the local history and culture etc. In my universe this world is part of an Empire with a different culture, and I try to make locals avoid items and outfits that crash too much.
    >
    > About kimonos there are quite a few versions available. I did some research, leaning that red and purple is to be used only by the higher classes, and that bright colors in general are used by younger, while elders obviously stick to less colors. So, in general I assume that a poor elder will basically wear grey or low-key colors, and a successful young adult will wear brighter colors and more patterns.
    >
    > But there are a few elements on the outfits that I assume have some symbolism, either referring to rank or married or not. Some have a tuft hanging from a thin rope from neck. There are different belts and other hanging stuff that might indicate something. I love to get it all right, and I think it would be quite embarrassing having a sim wearing totally wrong kimono.
    >
    > I don't care about seasons etc, because playing on rotation it would mean adjusting these outfits all the time. I'm more referring of their class, and perhaps age.
    >
    > Even if you are no expert but know one detail, please post :)

    Depending on their social class, age, and status, women's kimonos can come in a wide range of colours and patterns. Young folks, for instance, frequently wear bright colours, but seniors typically do not. Moreover, several accoutrements, such belts, tufts, and other hanging things, can denote social class or marital status. Women should ultimately be aware of the meaning behind their kimonos and take care to dress appropriately for their class and age.
  • SimmervilleSimmerville Posts: 10,852 Member
    Thanks @LMN600
    Simmerville on Youtube | My blog is updated weekly: Simmerville's Sims
    a.jpg
Sign In or Register to comment.
Return to top