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I really dislike the cellphone and how much time and idles it has in Sims 4

I am currently playing Coral Island, it is a new farming game on Steam and I really like it.

My little character can grow crops, dive and go into caves. There are fun characters to romance and have a friendship with. Okay, it is pretty lowkey but this game has caught me when Stardew Valley failed. It works for me.

Modern tech, Love for all and not a cellphone in sight.
The game is not devoid of representations of technology. They have npc's setting up Kickstarter campaigns, I remember seeing a flatscreen computers. There is a nice little robot that follows you around when you are out on adventures underwater. There are male and female npc's that can romance any player, they are not divided into straight or gay. There are single mom's and I it looks like you can have pets in the future as well.

The only thing missing is the cellphone, absolute bliss!!

I want to go out on adventure, not watch my sim watch a cellphone. I want to water plants, not watch my sim watch a cellphone. I want to invite my sim's friends over. Not watch my sim watching their friends watching a cellphone.

How will cellphones work in Sims 5?
I can mod Sims 4 into whatever I want it to be when it will no longer be updated but I wonder what Sims 5 will be like. How you will approach technology. It is possible to make a game set in the present day without cellphone and I like playing that version a good deal more. Or please make it possible to just leave the phone in the pocket, backpack, handbag, something. It is distracting and not fun, it doesn't add anything enjoyable to me.
currently playing on the Werewolf patch from June 14 2022

Comments

  • sweetface44sweetface44 Posts: 2,958 Member
    we want that in real life also.. we do the same thing stay looking at a cell phone
  • SimmingalSimmingal Posts: 6,682 Member
    edited November 25
    Yeah there is enough phone addiction irl
    in fact i am typing this on phone

    I just wish i could sometimes turn my sims phone off or something so i wouldn't have notifications n stuff for time being

    "but it isn't realistic" actually it is as battery life of these gadgets is nonexistent irl and my phone is turned off 60% of day anyway why can't my sims turn off their phones too?
  • Chicklet453681Chicklet453681 Posts: 2,187 Member
    Exactly! And if they wanted it to be so "realistic" because a lot of RL people are addicted to them ..... then why doesn't the battery ever run down?

    Why don't our sims need to charge their phone or they won't be able to use it? That would be a super simple fix for those that don't want the cell phone usage.

    Phone dies ..... never charge it
    Need to travel? Plug cell in for a few minutes (enough to get a charge to make that call for the uber) then let it die again
  • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 6,044 Member
    I still so wish they had a toggle to turn the blooming phone off. :s However, I do have all my sims dislike video gaming & turned off their social bunny & notification. ;) Now, if only there was a way to stop the sims from browsing on their phones. :'(
  • BabykittyjadeBabykittyjade Posts: 4,474 Member
    edited November 25
    I think we can all agree that overall too much technology just does not equal fun gameplay in a game no matter how realistic it may be. It's not "fun" to watch virtual people doing virtual things. The virtual reality thingy in sims is one of the items I haven't touched in years. I think much like real life modern technology is very cold and isolating and that's the feeling it translates in game. What warms the heart and makes you smile at the game is the same things that warm the heart in real life. ❤ Holding hands with a family, friend or loved one, spending time together without the distraction of technology like the way sims can cook together is really nice. Piggy back rides, playing and building things together rather it be cardboard forts, tree houses or anything creative and fun. Human to human, sim to sim contact.

    You don't know how many little little children I see sitting together on their tablets and phones without even acknowledging eachother's presense. It feels very cold and robot like. My parents never allowed anyone in the house to own cellphones or computers and I'm actually grateful for it. I feel like it played a big part in me and my siblings growing such a close relationship. We had nothing but eachother, our creativity and our imagination and it truly shaped some of my fondest memories of all the things we invented and did😊
    Those are the feelings players want in sims. It makes you smile and it's much more fun to watch.
    Although I've never played it I think ts2 came the closest from what I seen.

    When we had the stuff pack vote I remember technology coming in last lol

    Random memory: I remember years ago before I was allowed interne I first saw a picture of mickey mouse, and disney world in relation to the internet. And for years after that I dreamed of having the internet because Iegit thought it = Disney world. 😆 Fast forward to when my uncle brought my first computer and I got internet, the anticipation was so high and then all of my dreams were crusheed. All I saw were web browsers and I'm like what happened to mickey mouse? What happened to Disney world?🥺 what I'm I supposed to do with this search bar? 🥺
    Then I got the idea to search mickey mouse and disney world but it was just pictures and links 😒 Don't ask me what I thought I was going to find 😂
    Zombies, oh please oh please give us zombies!! :'(
  • logionlogion Posts: 4,474 Member
    I myself don't mind sims using the phone a lot after the update but I understand why people find it annoying since there is no way to turn it down... The interaction should probably be user controlled, not added to the long list of idle animations that we already have in The Sims 4.

    Idle animations are good for making sims seem less "robot-like" (otherwise they would just stand still) but they should probably not have so many phone animations as idle animations, idle animations play whenever the game thinks it has time to play them so it makes sims look obsessed with their phones, especially on a game that runs a bit slower.

    For the next sims game phone interactions should probably be user controlled somehow, so that it feels that our sims have a choice to use the phone or not.
  • CK213CK213 Posts: 20,207 Member
    edited December 1
    They should strip it from the code and apply it to a reward trait.
    Therefor if you want that constant phone checking for your sim, just get the reward trait that gives a fun buff whenever they check their phone
    And while they are at it, make phones purchasable.

    You don't get annoyed by it until you buy one.They don't get annoyed until they drop and break it.
    The Sims 2 got it right.
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  • LiELFLiELF Posts: 6,023 Member
    I absolutely agree that the phone use is too much. It was too much before the update that added more of it. I have no idea why they did that, I've seen so many people asking for options to turn off the phone because of how invasive it is , and then they made it worse. Also, the new phone walk style could have been added to the optional walks in CAS. Why in the world did they force it on all of our Sims? Can they please change that? It's especially infuriating because phones ignore the off-the-grid lot trait. So there's no escape whatsoever.

    I've been saying for years now that the tech gameplay isn't fun, partly because it's not optional. This is still a game and it needs to be engaging. Watching my Sims stand there looking at their phones indefinitely is anything but engaging. Some things in life, when simulated, just aren't interesting. And the constant spam calls from random townies don't even make sense half the time, I really wish I could block all of them.

    And I wholeheartedly agree that Sims 2 did it right, in making the player have to actually go out and buy your Sim a phone to use it. Man, do I miss that. I could give it to the few Sims I'd want to have it, and all of my Occults, retro Sims and oddballs could be blissfully phone free, as intended.

    There must be a way to toggle off the phones. Toddlers don't use them, right? C'mon devs, give us a break. I'd really like to be able to update my game again one day and buy a new pack. 😖
  • SilentKittySilentKitty Posts: 4,566 Member
    LiELF wrote: »
    I absolutely agree that the phone use is too much. It was too much before the update that added more of it. I have no idea why they did that, I've seen so many people asking for options to turn off the phone because of how invasive it is , and then they made it worse. Also, the new phone walk style could have been added to the optional walks in CAS. Why in the world did they force it on all of our Sims? Can they please change that? It's especially infuriating because phones ignore the off-the-grid lot trait. So there's no escape whatsoever.

    I've been saying for years now that the tech gameplay isn't fun, partly because it's not optional. This is still a game and it needs to be engaging. Watching my Sims stand there looking at their phones indefinitely is anything but engaging. Some things in life, when simulated, just aren't interesting. And the constant spam calls from random townies don't even make sense half the time, I really wish I could block all of them.

    And I wholeheartedly agree that Sims 2 did it right, in making the player have to actually go out and buy your Sim a phone to use it. Man, do I miss that. I could give it to the few Sims I'd want to have it, and all of my Occults, retro Sims and oddballs could be blissfully phone free, as intended.

    There must be a way to toggle off the phones. Toddlers don't use them, right? C'mon devs, give us a break. I'd really like to be able to update my game again one day and buy a new pack. 😖

    Jupp. I'm on the werewolf-patch before the phone-madness. No way no how am I going to introduce that into my game without an option to turn it off. It would be so much easier to update the game if there was a way to toggle the phone off.
    currently playing on the Werewolf patch from June 14 2022
  • Sarah26CatSarah26Cat Posts: 25 Member
    They could just add a Technophobe Trait, Sims with this trait would avoid using phones, computers, and other tech on autopilot. They'd also get negative moodlets from using them, but that is easily countered and they can put a way to avoid it in the game. For instance, get logic skill up to 5 and the negative tech moodlets go away. That's how I would do it anyway.
  • CAPTAIN_NXR7CAPTAIN_NXR7 Posts: 3,924 Member

    Oh I 100% agree.

    At this point I'm running out of ideas on how to express my feelings of utter resentment towards these phones.
    Let me try with pizza.
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    For what it's worth, I currently have THIS MOD installed to disable autonomous phone use, which is great for the time being, but I'd appreciate it if team Maxis could find a solution for all simmers.

    I want to keep my game up to date but I don't want to keep updating mods for this kind of friggin' immersion breaking stuff. It's putting many players at a disadvantage I'm sure. Updating "fix" mods is time consuming - time that should really be spend on doing more enjoyable things, such as......playing games?

    I also play off-the grid a lot and the majority of my sims don't use modern technology at all (or umbrellers for that matter 🤬. I'd dump 'em all into the Sulani volcano if I could. Oh believe me, I'd watch it all melt to blobsies - with the widest and wickedest grin on me face. )
  • NightwalkerArkanisNightwalkerArkanis Posts: 220 Member
    edited November 29
    I haven't played in a long time, so I don't know what state the game will be in.

    Some people says it has been toned down. Others that it remains an annoying menace. I'm afraid to start playing and find out. It just feels like an intrusion. But if the intent was to remind us that no matter what Sims we create, they're not ours, and EA can change them as they pleases, then A+ on a job well done. All my Sims, even the no-technology using, living of the land Sim was transformed into cellphone obsessive beings. I get enough of that irl.

    Doubt EA would ever get rid of something they implemented unless enough people raise their vocies, but I'd support anything that gets rid of the cellphone idle animations and even the cellphone. Heck, a button on the panel that allows your Sim to get rid of or buy a new cellphone. And introduce the old landline phones.

    I really wish I had done like some wiser souls, and stayed at the Werewolf update. But the gender preferences snared me.
    To think such a small thing like animations (granted, they popped up everywhere) could ruin the enjoyment of a game for me.
  • WhatCobblersWhatCobblers Posts: 2,436 Member
    edited December 2
    The amount of phone use by Sims, especially as they just walk along or during a conversation (which is frankly just rude) is a constant annoyance.

    My Sims take every opportunity to use a phone as soon as they get a spare moment. It is causing problems with getting them to do tasks and ruining fun animated moments because of the having to pause and send a text. Why?!

    I disagree that mobile phone use makes the game more 'realistic'. My definition of how real a game or story feels is to do with how one would expect the characters/Sims to act within the setting of their universe.
    It does not feel like a realistically existing world when my werewolf on a feral rampage suddenly regains enough self control to handle a mobile device and send a text! (Although this was quite amusing to watch)
    It does not feel like a realistically existing world when my merman, who lives alone on a remote island and has grown up in a more or less technology-less environment (and also doesn't like socialising much), keeps getting his phone out to send texts and check social media. (This is not amusing, this is just an annoying interruption).

    I agree with @SilentKitty in that I like to play the game to have little adventures with my characters and do lots of fun things. The obsessive phone use by Sims is spoiling this. And even if it is supposed to make the game seem more like 'the real world', is this the sort of real world EA really wants to promote? People not being able to function without checking their phone every few seconds? People interrupting quality time with a friend or family member to look at their phones instead? This is 'real life'?!
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  • s_stutlers_stutler Posts: 354 Member
    edited December 3
    Completely agree with cellphones being used excessively, to a point.

    Sims in TS4 have always been obsessed with their phones. I hate the idle time they spend on it, and I have Mods which have stopped all phone use for all ages, which I have used for years. The current one is (No Auto Play on Phones by MSQSIMS on TSR) - But. With High School Years, I added a Mod that ONLY lets Teens be obsessed with their phones. (Phone Animation Teens Only by MissyHissy) - I think they do go a little bit overboard with their phones, as they literally walk into walls at school while they're on it... but with Social Bunny, I guess that is to be expected. XD
  • Dark_BokenshaDark_Bokensha Posts: 28 Member
    Exactly! And if they wanted it to be so "realistic" because a lot of RL people are addicted to them ..... then why doesn't the battery ever run down?

    Why don't our sims need to charge their phone or they won't be able to use it? That would be a super simple fix for those that don't want the cell phone usage.

    Phone dies ..... never charge it
    Need to travel? Plug cell in for a few minutes (enough to get a charge to make that call for the uber) then let it die again

    I think that's because the phones also serves as an gameplay (starting events, traveling, chatting with someone because you refused to hang out with them but don't want to lose friends, finding jobs, ext.), and from what I've heard people really hate waiting for ubers in the older games. It's still a video game and it shouldn't be too realistic, but I agree that Sims looking at their phone are annoying, the only time they don't really do it is in the Off-The-Grid lot, which I haven't played with much.
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