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  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 5,503 Member
    @Metior_Ice You're not alone there. I'd guess about half of the characters I create I take the time to research the meaning of their name. I have links to sites to find names for different ethnicities saved so that I can look them over when creating sims. I've often wondered how many others do that. I feel like it gives them more depth and makes them more relatable.
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  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 23,663 Member
    @Metior_Ice Great segment. With Zephr never catching to his brother, I confess, I began to worry something untoward had happened to him.
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  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    @Metior_Ice You're not alone there. I'd guess about half of the characters I create I take the time to research the meaning of their name. I have links to sites to find names for different ethnicities saved so that I can look them over when creating sims. I've often wondered how many others do that. I feel like it gives them more depth and makes them more relatable.

    Most of my merfolk have Gaelic names, and their appearance is based on Havmand and Havfrue. They are the variation of merfolk made popular by Hans Christian Andersen’s the Little Mermaid. Denmark has 2 statues dedicated to him. One is the well known Little Mermaid Statue, and the other one is Hans, the Little Merman.

    As far as I know, Mermen and Mermaids have a presence around the world, but their popular appearance is Scandinavian in origin. Kind of a fun fact considering merfolk were introduced with a pack focused on Polynesian Culture.
    @Metior_Ice Great segment. With Zephr never catching to his brother, I confess, I began to worry something untoward had happened to him.

    You should know by now that I’m very protective of my twins. I wouldn’t let any harm come to them, but I’m glad I was able to pull off some suspense!
  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 5,503 Member
    Metior_Ice wrote: »
    @Metior_Ice You're not alone there. I'd guess about half of the characters I create I take the time to research the meaning of their name. I have links to sites to find names for different ethnicities saved so that I can look them over when creating sims. I've often wondered how many others do that. I feel like it gives them more depth and makes them more relatable.

    Most of my merfolk have Gaelic names, and their appearance is based on Havmand and Havfrue. They are the variation of merfolk made popular by Hans Christian Andersen’s the Little Mermaid. Denmark has 2 statues dedicated to him. One is the well known Little Mermaid Statue, and the other one is Hans, the Little Merman.

    As far as I know, Mermen and Mermaids have a presence around the world, but their popular appearance is Scandinavian in origin. Kind of a fun fact considering merfolk were introduced with a pack focused on Polynesian Culture.
    @Metior_Ice Great segment. With Zephr never catching to his brother, I confess, I began to worry something untoward had happened to him.

    You should know by now that I’m very protective of my twins. I wouldn’t let any harm come to them, but I’m glad I was able to pull off some suspense!

    That is an interesting fact. I never gave much thought to the origin of merfolk mythology. I always associated their story with tropical islands even though their presence in stories isn't limited to those areas. I think it's because if I think of the sea I think of pirates, and they're most often associated with the Caribbean, and not just because of Disney. My mom's father was also a fisherman or sport fisherman in and around the West Palm Beach/Riviera Beach/Lantana area. I remember visiting a few times when I was little so when I think of the sea, I think of that area by default. The first time I ever saw the ocean was Singer Island.
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  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    @DaniRose2143

    Merfolk have many different names and very different appearances and lore depending on the part of the world you look at.

    Some names are as follows:
    Havmand (Masculine) (Scandinavian Merman)
    Havfrue (Feminine) (Scandinavian Mermaid)
    Nix (Masculine) (I don’t know much about him, but I think he’s the German Merman I think he’s technically a type of fairy. There might be more blurring between gender here.)
    Nixie (Feminine) (Same situation as Nix, but the German Mermaid.)
    Triton (Masculine) (The Ancient Greek Merman)
    Nereid (Feminine) (Short of calling them mermaids, Tritons and Mermaids in Ancient Greece were separate mythical beings. Sirens and Mermaids are also technically entirely different mythical beings too.)
    Neck (Masculine) (Only male appearances. Sometimes called the water horse and a shapeshifter that is sometimes depicted with a human torso and fish tail.)
    Fossgrim (Masculine) (Only male appearances. The thing that makes Fossgrim different from Neck is where he’s found. He shares many similarities with Neck.)
    Merrow (Different appearances depending on gender.)
    Mami Wata (Feminine) (I believe African in origin and lore spread to the Caribbean and Amazon. Only female appearances.)

    I’ve also heard of Ningyo from Japan.

    Honestly the list goes on and on, but the separation of gender seems to be a consistent pattern.

    The consequence of gendered terminology is that an exclusively female term like “Mermaid” only covers half of plural, gender-neutral “Merfolk.” Mermen actually have their own lore that uses male terminology. It’s actually a very interesting topic, especially since merfolk lore exists globally, but simultaneously separated by a vast amount time and space.

  • luciusstormluciusstorm Posts: 630 Member
    @Metior_Ice, finally caught up. Very interesting first couple of episodes. I like the world building you've done so far.
  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 5,503 Member
    Metior_Ice wrote: »
    @DaniRose2143

    Merfolk have many different names and very different appearances and lore depending on the part of the world you look at.

    Some names are as follows:
    Havmand (Masculine) (Scandinavian Merman)
    Havfrue (Feminine) (Scandinavian Mermaid)
    Nix (Masculine) (I don’t know much about him, but I think he’s the German Merman I think he’s technically a type of fairy. There might be more blurring between gender here.)
    Nixie (Feminine) (Same situation as Nix, but the German Mermaid.)
    Triton (Masculine) (The Ancient Greek Merman)
    Nereid (Feminine) (Short of calling them mermaids, Tritons and Mermaids in Ancient Greece were separate mythical beings. Sirens and Mermaids are also technically entirely different mythical beings too.)
    Neck (Masculine) (Only male appearances. Sometimes called the water horse and a shapeshifter that is sometimes depicted with a human torso and fish tail.)
    Fossgrim (Masculine) (Only male appearances. The thing that makes Fossgrim different from Neck is where he’s found. He shares many similarities with Neck.)
    Merrow (Different appearances depending on gender.)
    Mami Wata (Feminine) (I believe African in origin and lore spread to the Caribbean and Amazon. Only female appearances.)

    I’ve also heard of Ningyo from Japan.

    Honestly the list goes on and on, but the separation of gender seems to be a consistent pattern.

    The consequence of gendered terminology is that an exclusively female term like “Mermaid” only covers half of plural, gender-neutral “Merfolk.” Mermen actually have their own lore that uses male terminology. It’s actually a very interesting topic, especially since merfolk lore exists globally, but simultaneously separated by a vast amount time and space.

    Your depth of knowledge and passion for the subject are wonderful and fascinating. Triton and Sirens, especially the later, are terms most of us are familiar with but not in the truest sense of what they actually are. I admit I'm one of them. I know Triton, but not as a group of beings, but as one singular entity, the god of the sea. Sirens and mermaids are terms I had thought of as interchangeable. I love the depth your story brings to the forums and the game, and I enjoy the knowledge I gain.

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  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    edited November 18
    @DaniRose2143 The Tritones are Greek Mythology’s Ocean equivalent of the Satyr.
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    edited November 18
    But, it’s like I said, the term mermaid is exclusively female and do to the nature of how keyword searches work, exclude all the exclusively male merman variations like Havmand, Blue Man, Tritones, Fossgrim, Neck, and etc. All of those variations often have depictions that we would popularly consider “Mermen” and make up what “Mermen” are.

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    On a separate note, Selkie and Finfolk are worth looking into too.
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    Honestly, if anyone has questions or want sources, I’d be happy to share some of what I found. I’m looking forward to writing my next update!
  • luciusstormluciusstorm Posts: 630 Member
    Metior_Ice wrote: »
    Honestly, if anyone has questions or want sources, I’d be happy to share some of what I found. I’m looking forward to writing my next update!

    Well if you're going to put an open invite like that out there, I'll ask... Given the Polynesian overtones of the mer-folk in Sims 4, have you looked into Polynesian folklore regarding them? If so, can you point me to any good summary resources for the casual researcher and/or share a quick summary of any info you may have found?
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    edited November 19
    Metior_Ice wrote: »
    Honestly, if anyone has questions or want sources, I’d be happy to share some of what I found. I’m looking forward to writing my next update!

    Well if you're going to put an open invite like that out there, I'll ask... Given the Polynesian overtones of the mer-folk in Sims 4, have you looked into Polynesian folklore regarding them? If so, can you point me to any good summary resources for the casual researcher and/or share a quick summary of any info you may have found?

    I’ll need a bit of time to find something, but there are a few terms I found. I haven’t done a lot of in depth research into it yet.

    What I’ve found on the superficial level is Vatea from Cook Island.

    Dagon from the Philistines.

    Mo’o seem to be the closest thing to a Mermaid. They are water spirits, and from what I’ve been able to gather, most merfolk are often a type of water spirit. This is a link to what looks like a Hawaiian Native site. I can’t think of a more direct source to start looking.

    https://www.malamamakua.org/moo-of-mkua-valley#

    As for mermen, I would start by looking into Shark Men. Sharks are of great importance to Hawaiian Culture, and I would start with Deities like Nanaue.

    I don’t know any specific myths or stories, but a lot of native cultures have an oral tradition of storytelling. Stories have a lot of importance to different native cultures. The biggest challenge would be finding a story told via oral tradition that is written down.

    Most of my merfolk research came to a stand still because there are some things that are hard to find on the internet like information in a book that can only be obtained in another country for example. Not everything is digital.
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    edited November 19
    @luciusstorm Ukupanipo Hekekia and Kalamainu’u Iona are names to look up too. They aren’t random names they used in Island Living.

    Also, Collect the Sunken Treasure. There’s an interesting hidden sims story there.
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    edited November 21
    Chapter 3: The Guardians of the Sea

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    "About the twins, can I ask you something?" Calum inquired.

    "Sure." Kemps answered.

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    "With your permission, I'd like to give them a chance to go on land and spend some time with humans." Calum smiled at the idea. "I think it would be good for them if they had more experience around them. It's already been a couple decades since they were born..."

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    "Absolutely not." Kemps waved off the idea. "It's dangerous, especially for them."

    "Kemps, the twins will go on land on their own one day. It's better if they get a chance to learn about humans sooner than later."

    "They are just merboys, children. They shouldn't leave the sea yet."

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    "Kemps, you know that I met their mother on land. I can look after them and guide them."

    "I don't know. Arihi wasn't a human to begin with."

    "She's a Spirit of the Islands, an Island Elemental that gave up her place in the spirit realm to live with me in the sea," Calum said. "She made that choice after you forbid our family from returning to the land."

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    "All the more reason to keep them in the sea where it's safe." Kemps made up his mind.

    "Why? When they were born from me and Arihi's songs, they inherited my tail and their mother's elemental powers. They are more than just young mermen."

    "I still don't think it's safe. They still need to learn how to use their powers responsibly."

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    "It's a struggle. I get it. The land was ruined by humans. While most of our kind fled, we stayed because it's our family's responsibility to protect the sea."

    "The twins are mermen. They will inherit our family's resposnbility as all the mermen in our family have. But, they also inheirted their mother's responsibility to the Land. They didn't choose any of this, but when their mother became a mermaid, she passed the mantle onto them."

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    "We will never die from old age. How many years will it take for you to finally change your mind. It's already been more than twenty years since you forbid taking human form." Calum argued. "At this rate, the pollution from the land will wash into the sea and be the end of us and all our kind."

    "You aren't wrong. Mua Pel'Am is impossible to swim around without getting sick."

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    "But, how will sending the twins on land change anything. What can we do to change anything? The humans abandoned the islands. Given enough time, the sea can recover."

    "How long can our kind endure the pollution washing into the sea? There's so much that the humans left on land and no guarantee that waiting for nature to take its course will fix anything."

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    Kemps's expression lightened up. "You really want to return to the land don't you."

    "Well, I won't lie. I miss the time I spent on land."

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    "I give. It's been a long time without anything getting better." Kemps smiled. "We'll give your way a chance."

    "Thank you. I think we can make a difference this way."

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    "You can be such a morbid drama llama sometimes." Kemps remarked.

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    "But, I've been thinking some of the same things lately."

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    "So, what's your genius plan?" Kemps asked.

    "I'm thinking we can keep the twins safe from pollution by sending them to a human high school. There they can learn about humans and how they live. While they are away, we can try to do something about the ruins. The humans won't return to clean up their own mess. We have to do something."

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    "That's all well and good, but what's going to stop the humans from coming back when things are better."

    "The humans will return, and that's why the twins need to learn how to blend in with them. Maybe, we could spread some awareness about how pollution hurts the sea and the islands."

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    "Well, I'll follow your lead on this one for now. I'll see what I can do about cleaning up the island, but you need to convince the humans to stop polluting the sea. If the humans don't change, we will be right back where we started. The humans won't have to live through what we will."

    "Maybe, maybe they will care enough about what their children will live through to change."

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    "It's possible, but I'm not sure. Humans are quick to forget and slow to remember. Every generation will have to learn from mistakes made in the past. Every generation will have to remember the consequences of not caring about the environment, the world they live in."

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    "We can be the ones that remind them. We are the Guardians of the Sea. It's the responsbility of all Zalrian Mermen to protect the oceans. I think teaching others the value of protecting our worlds is a good way to live up to what we are meant to do."

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    "We can make a difference!" Calum enthused. "We just have to keep trying."

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    "I believe you, and I have faith in you." Kemps said. "And, because I have faith in you, I will give humans another chance."

    "Thank you Kemps," Calum said. "You've done so much already to protect us. But, we can't hide in a shell like a clam forever."

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    "The world is bigger than the seas around Sulani. The twins will need to experience it."

    "It's the best way we can protect them. We have to teach them to swim on their own."

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    "Of course, it's going to be up to you. As the Patriarch of the Zalrians, I give you my blessing to guide the twins as they take their first steps in the human world."

    "I won't let you down." Calum thanked his older brother.

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    "Now, I think we need to take a day or two to learn how to walk again." Kemps joked.

    "True, we haven't used our human forms in a long time." Calum laughed.

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  • luciusstormluciusstorm Posts: 630 Member
    @Metior_Ice, very nice... I'm really interested in seeing how this develops.
  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    @luciusstorm thank you! Normally, I told stories in the order they happened in my game. I’m trying something new. I already have an idea where High School is going to go, but I need to set things up.

    On a side note, I personally love how much of the gameplay has happened at night or when it’s raining. The darker undertones from the darker lighting has made things more interesting. I feel like I’ve been able to use lighting to help tell the story.
  • GalacticGalGalacticGal Posts: 23,663 Member
    @Metior_Ice I enjoyed your segment and can't wait to see how it all pans out. The twins in high school could be a hoot, too.
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  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 5,503 Member
    @Metior_Ice That was a wonderful chapter. One of the truest things in life is that nothing will change simply by wishing. Wishing for change is fine, but it takes action to make it reality. Thankfully Kemps saw the truth in Calum's words.
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  • Metior_IceMetior_Ice Posts: 2,167 Member
    @GalacticGal I’m very close to a high school update!

    @DaniRose2143 Kemps has spent so much time trying to protect his family that for a long time he thought the best thing he could do is secure a safe haven until nature ran its course. But, waiting for change doesn’t really help anyone. Waiting for someone else to fix another’s mess isn’t a kindness.
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