Each sims game has its good points and its weaknesses, this discussion is about where the sims 4 went right in your opinion, The game is still in development at this stage and of course we had a lovely surprise of babies finally being a real life stage and were getting 2 confirmed expansion packs next year (2023), one what looks to be a generations pack or an expansion completely dedicated to the younger life stage, here's what I personally think the sims 4 went right
I love how the developers done university this time around, I feel it was more replayable not being stuck in the uni world, the revival universities and mascots
Cats and dogs I love that I don't have to control them makes them feel more real to me, they can be unpredictable like real life and the vet career was something completely new to the franchise
Seasons, custom holidays, it's nice to able to pick what holidays your sims celebrate, allows multi culture in game, gardening and flower arranging, ice skating and roller skating and of course weather
Celebrities I feel are much better in the sims 4 than they ever where, its not as easy to become famous, having perks and quirks and an acting career, getting famous for doing things that makes sense
Create a sim and build & buy for me is the best its ever been
Vampires, werewolves and spellcasters having a pack completely dedicated to them, they are better than ever
Being able to just travel world to world just like that, none of this stuck in one world this is 2022 our sims can be in a Japanese themed world 1 minute then a tropical island the next, those sims are more advanced than us 🤣
More diversity with gender and sexuality
My sims going to a bar and it's alive with lots of sims ready to socialise
Neighbourhood stories I love that we could fully customize this to our liking
Lot traits and lot challenges gives our sims home a personally other than the decor
Well I can play the same save file for months or even years without the save getting corrupted in some way forcing me to start from scratch.
You can potentially destroy your entire town in Sims 2 if you so much as save your game while your Sim's on the phone or if there's a ghost on your lot.
I didn’t play any of the other sims so I can’t comment on gameplay. But I feel the art style of the sims is the best of the series. Subjective I know but I absolutely love the sims 4 design.
Good cartoons age well. Super Mario world is still a great looking game. Sims 4 shall be too.
Neighbourhood stories is still incomplete atm, they don't autonomously make friends/enemies with each other, romance one another, get married, cheat, and get divorced atm.
Once that is implemented I will be satisfied.
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Toddlers absolutely, they are the very best of any iteration.
It's a small thing I guess, but I love the multitasking. And being able to grab a drink with a meal. Yoga. Fitness trainers at the gym. Other small things I can't remember right now LOL. Sometimes the small little details are important.
CaS and BB. When I have a character in mind, I can create them the way I imagine them to be, and even though I don’t build, I can confidently edit a lot and feel like I’m getting what I want.
Art style, to me, is more appealing. Yes, it’s somewhat Pixar, but it’s aged much better than it’s predecessors. And some of the scenery is breathtaking at times.
Multitasking and routing. Sims can eat, carry on a conversation, and watch TV at the same time. You forget how much that adds until you go back and play one of the older titles again. No more waiting for another sim to finish using the stairs before your sim can go up, and I’ve had very few sim killing routing issues.
Free travel between worlds. In spite of the smallness of the individual worlds, TS4s overall world seems bigger and more diverse to me than TS3s huge open worlds that you were locked into. Open neighborhoods would make it just right.
Giving the major supernatural lifestates their own packs, style and worlds is perfect.
The Gallery is super easy to use.
And yes, there are bugs, but I luckily haven’t experienced anything game breaking. To me, even though TS4 has had a longer run, it’s no where near as unstable and bloated as TS3 was toward the end of its run.
CAS and toddlers, and I do like some of the build/buy mode features like scaling objects, object search, saving rooms, moving rooms, and curved walls, despite being a little glitchy.
I think the best feature of sims 4 is that it is a stable game. My main save started in 2014, and though I do a re-save or back up save several times a year, I have played that same save since 2014.
I also like that they continually update the game bring out new things. Though I do wish they would make things like lifestyles where you could choose the ones that you want, like you do traits and lot traits. I hate certain life styles being forced on my sims. I enjoyed whims better than wants and fears too, as I could just use them to get points for potions and things when I felt like it, and I hate all my sims feeling like they have dead end jobs when I want some of them to stay in certain positions. I don’t want everyone at the top of their career, and I don’t want all of my older sims to fear death. I wish EA let us choose sentiments, lifestyles, wants and fears for each of our sims, or at least offer us the option to easily get rid of ones we don’t want our sims to experience, without having turn the whole system on or off. Many times they just don’t fit the way I want to play certain sims.
I love that they added toddlers and that they are adding infants. I hope they add cars and children being able to do things like tag and cops and robbers. It looks like we may be getting more things for children, toddlers and elders in upcoming packs which I like. I like that they added ponds and terrain tools. I like the addition of lot traits, and the addition of clubs. I also like that most world have swimming areas, I hope they change all the old worlds to have swimming areas too.
I like that you can live in and visit any world with all households and move around to any of them, except a couple of the travel worlds which I hope they make livable in the future. It makes it great for playing rotational games, which is another good feature. All my sims have the use of all worlds.
I like that sims can multitask like watching tv and eating. But, they shouldn’t have shortened eating time. It was better the way it used to be.
I like that there are few rabbit holes, but I do wish they would get rid of some that that they do have, like scouts, and going to a concert, I would rather they be real events, or at least let us make them real events that we can choose to send our sims to. Example. I wish we had a scout lot that we can send our scouts to on Saturdays instead of the rabbit hole, I made a scout lot I would rather send my scouts to than the rabbit hole scout function on Saturdays.
I like that they have several active careers. I think it would be nice to make them all have the possibility to be active, and all have an active playable lot that we change like the High School I also like the freelancer careers, and the odd jobs and such. Jobs that are playable if we want to follow our sims.
I like that sims don’t get stuck very often, unless it’s a bug.
I like that we have outfit categories for different events and seasons and such, but I wish we had a simple clothing lot trait where we had to buy each piece of the outfit in CAS) per household ( besides hair and eyes ). I want my sims to be able to buy individual pieces and have them added to their household. Pants, dresses, glasses, jewelry items, shoes, tattoo’s etc., and have them open them up in CAS for that household. I also want a costume category so sims will show up to costume events in the outfit I chose whether they are sims I play or sims I don’t, and so we can use any CAS item we want to use, for a costume like we can any of the other categories. I really like that they added the simple loving lot trait for food, now I want them to do the same for CAS items ( for played households ). It should be be voluntary just like the simple living lot trait ).
I also like that we can place clutter items on many surfaces. I do wish they would open them up to all surfaces though.
I love the amount of fruits, herbs, vegetables and flowers we can buy and grow, however I would rather have a system that is not quite so complicated as it seems to have caused some terrible glitches. And I would love to be able to turn off seasonal growing, so that my sims can grow plants any season that I want them to ( that I think has caused glitches too ).
Like someone else mentioned that I had not thought of till reading their post, I like that bars, nightclubs, vet clinics, retail, parks etc. are lively with people, doing what you do at those places.
Although I rarely play supernatural packs ( maybe I will make a supernatural save someday ), I do like that they gave them their own packs and fleshed out the details. I do buy the supernatural packs mostly for the build buy and CAS. I’m glad that the occults are not that intrusive in a realistic game. Even when I played witches in the sims 2, I preferred that they were rather hidden as I preferred for them to be few, as to make them more special.
I like the variety of packs that sis 4 has. Expansions, game packs, stuff packs and yes even kits. I do wish they would come out with more stuff packs like they used to, as I really miss them, even the less complicated ones, I liked the special item and all the build buy, clothing, jewelry, hair styles and such that we got in them. I would love to see world packs …. I can never get enough worlds.
Overall, I think the sims 4 has been a good game, even though a few of the bugs have started to bother me lately ( I don’t use mods or CC ). I might start using mods and CC if they bring in a new system for CC and mods that makes them easy to add and are prescreened for problems and they are already updated before patches go out.
Sims 4 is the only game I have bought all the packs for. I gave up on sims 3 early because of all the rabbit holes it started out with. Sims 2 I loved, even though I didn’t have all the packs. I shared that game with other family members……. Sims 4 is all mine…. Lol.
I didn't play Sims 1 or 3 so this is all what I like about Sims 4 compared to Sims 2
Multitasking
NPC aging
Personalities based on a wide variety of traits instead of 6 sliders
Able to visit other sims at their homes
Travel between worlds without it having to be a scripted "vacation"
Travel to another lot and time still passes at home
Can attend university without being imprisoned in the campus world until graduation
All the things that matter most to me are gameplay and it's way better in 4 than 2. I know, I miss the kids playing tag too, but that doesn't compare to all the other massive improvements.
For me, rotational play in one save file is better in The Sims 4 than it was in The Sims 3. Plus it is more customizable.
And of course I want to mention clubs. Yes, it is a new feature, but I love it.
Plus if I want to expand my house, it is more easier and comfortable to do than in the previous games where I had to delete walls. Plus if I'm not happy with building's placement, I can just move it. No need to bulldoze the whole building!
I agree that occults are done best in Sims 4. The power/weaknesses/abilities etc trees mean that not every vampire, werewolf or Spellcaster is the same. Any Sim could learn alchemy in Sims 3, witches just had a slight advantage. Plus there’s the differing levels, meaning that doing stuff like studying vampire lore or practising magic means you become more powerful and unlock more things to do.
Toddlers are also done well, and I like that there are more hairstyle and clothing options for them in CAS. Sims 3 in particular didn’t have much in the way of hairstyles, even with the Store, and the CC options aren’t great (think ridiculously long and shiny hairstyles that no IRL toddler would have). I also do like that they start off being able to walk, and that they can help themselves to adult food and put themselves to bed (which I find useful as I usually play with more than one child in a family at once!)
I also like the huge variety of food dishes there are.
CAS for the most part.
(Although the devs have a very unhealthy obsession with crop tops and above the ankle pants in this version, maybe that's the norm for California but for me it's definitely not!)
Build/Buy
Ability to shrink/enlarge items
Ability to place doors, windows, and wall items off grid
The search function/filters
Ease of placing/rotating lots (so much faster compared to TS2 & TS3)
Gameplay
Toddlers
Pets (Although since we can't control them, not sure why they need to take up a household slot)
Seasons Calendar
Clubs
Manage Households
Gallery (although it needs a serious overhaul and more filter options, that actually work!)
Of course! Manage households! It allows to to edit households without having to switch to them.
Plus the editing CAS allows to easily change both outfits and hairstyles. The Sims 3 was the worst in setting the hairstyle per outfit because you had to change outfit in live mode then change appearance then change outfit in live mode and then change outfit... The styling station helped, but it was so big. The Sims 2 had the ability to set the hairstyle per outfit easily with change appearance interaction.
Plus there are cheats that allows you to make your own NPC sims. Your own pizza delivery, your own professors, your own maids... I just wish it worked for all NPC sims (bartenders, gym trainers, librarians...)
I also love how the sims 4 handled their sims needs, in the previous games it was very hard to maintain our sims well being, the sims 2 was very difficult the needs would go down too quickly, I find the sims 4 has a good balance
The build mode. I can only compare with TS3 but I find it much easier to use (although I miss the color wheel, being able to use the space under a roof and garage stuff).
I don’t have a lot of experience playing older sims games. Merfolk in the Sims 3 caught my attention, but with the Sims 3 at its end when I could buy the game, I bought the Sims 4. In fact, I discovered the sims when I was looking into merfolk lore and merfolk stories.
One thing I love about the Sims 4 that I think they did better than the Sims 3 is the design of Merfolk. For one thing, I wasn’t a fan of scales on a sim’s legs.
I love the variety of merfolk tails, and I wish I had more options!
I like being able to choose the gender preferences of my sims in TS4's CAS, rather than having to play with them in game to force them to prefer a certain gender like in the previous games. I like that there is fashion and hair that can be worn by either gender; that I can add body hair to female sims without them being a werewolf. The build mode of TS4 is nicer, too.
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You can potentially destroy your entire town in Sims 2 if you so much as save your game while your Sim's on the phone or if there's a ghost on your lot.
Good cartoons age well. Super Mario world is still a great looking game. Sims 4 shall be too.
Once that is implemented I will be satisfied.
It's a small thing I guess, but I love the multitasking. And being able to grab a drink with a meal. Yoga. Fitness trainers at the gym. Other small things I can't remember right now LOL. Sometimes the small little details are important.
Art style, to me, is more appealing. Yes, it’s somewhat Pixar, but it’s aged much better than it’s predecessors. And some of the scenery is breathtaking at times.
Multitasking and routing. Sims can eat, carry on a conversation, and watch TV at the same time. You forget how much that adds until you go back and play one of the older titles again. No more waiting for another sim to finish using the stairs before your sim can go up, and I’ve had very few sim killing routing issues.
Free travel between worlds. In spite of the smallness of the individual worlds, TS4s overall world seems bigger and more diverse to me than TS3s huge open worlds that you were locked into. Open neighborhoods would make it just right.
Giving the major supernatural lifestates their own packs, style and worlds is perfect.
The Gallery is super easy to use.
And yes, there are bugs, but I luckily haven’t experienced anything game breaking. To me, even though TS4 has had a longer run, it’s no where near as unstable and bloated as TS3 was toward the end of its run.
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I also like that they continually update the game bring out new things. Though I do wish they would make things like lifestyles where you could choose the ones that you want, like you do traits and lot traits. I hate certain life styles being forced on my sims. I enjoyed whims better than wants and fears too, as I could just use them to get points for potions and things when I felt like it, and I hate all my sims feeling like they have dead end jobs when I want some of them to stay in certain positions. I don’t want everyone at the top of their career, and I don’t want all of my older sims to fear death. I wish EA let us choose sentiments, lifestyles, wants and fears for each of our sims, or at least offer us the option to easily get rid of ones we don’t want our sims to experience, without having turn the whole system on or off. Many times they just don’t fit the way I want to play certain sims.
I love that they added toddlers and that they are adding infants. I hope they add cars and children being able to do things like tag and cops and robbers. It looks like we may be getting more things for children, toddlers and elders in upcoming packs which I like. I like that they added ponds and terrain tools. I like the addition of lot traits, and the addition of clubs. I also like that most world have swimming areas, I hope they change all the old worlds to have swimming areas too.
I like that you can live in and visit any world with all households and move around to any of them, except a couple of the travel worlds which I hope they make livable in the future. It makes it great for playing rotational games, which is another good feature. All my sims have the use of all worlds.
I like that sims can multitask like watching tv and eating. But, they shouldn’t have shortened eating time. It was better the way it used to be.
I like that there are few rabbit holes, but I do wish they would get rid of some that that they do have, like scouts, and going to a concert, I would rather they be real events, or at least let us make them real events that we can choose to send our sims to. Example. I wish we had a scout lot that we can send our scouts to on Saturdays instead of the rabbit hole, I made a scout lot I would rather send my scouts to than the rabbit hole scout function on Saturdays.
I like that they have several active careers. I think it would be nice to make them all have the possibility to be active, and all have an active playable lot that we change like the High School I also like the freelancer careers, and the odd jobs and such. Jobs that are playable if we want to follow our sims.
I like that sims don’t get stuck very often, unless it’s a bug.
I like that we have outfit categories for different events and seasons and such, but I wish we had a simple clothing lot trait where we had to buy each piece of the outfit in CAS) per household ( besides hair and eyes ). I want my sims to be able to buy individual pieces and have them added to their household. Pants, dresses, glasses, jewelry items, shoes, tattoo’s etc., and have them open them up in CAS for that household. I also want a costume category so sims will show up to costume events in the outfit I chose whether they are sims I play or sims I don’t, and so we can use any CAS item we want to use, for a costume like we can any of the other categories. I really like that they added the simple loving lot trait for food, now I want them to do the same for CAS items ( for played households ). It should be be voluntary just like the simple living lot trait ).
I also like that we can place clutter items on many surfaces. I do wish they would open them up to all surfaces though.
I love the amount of fruits, herbs, vegetables and flowers we can buy and grow, however I would rather have a system that is not quite so complicated as it seems to have caused some terrible glitches. And I would love to be able to turn off seasonal growing, so that my sims can grow plants any season that I want them to ( that I think has caused glitches too ).
Like someone else mentioned that I had not thought of till reading their post, I like that bars, nightclubs, vet clinics, retail, parks etc. are lively with people, doing what you do at those places.
Although I rarely play supernatural packs ( maybe I will make a supernatural save someday ), I do like that they gave them their own packs and fleshed out the details. I do buy the supernatural packs mostly for the build buy and CAS. I’m glad that the occults are not that intrusive in a realistic game. Even when I played witches in the sims 2, I preferred that they were rather hidden as I preferred for them to be few, as to make them more special.
I like the variety of packs that sis 4 has. Expansions, game packs, stuff packs and yes even kits. I do wish they would come out with more stuff packs like they used to, as I really miss them, even the less complicated ones, I liked the special item and all the build buy, clothing, jewelry, hair styles and such that we got in them. I would love to see world packs …. I can never get enough worlds.
Overall, I think the sims 4 has been a good game, even though a few of the bugs have started to bother me lately ( I don’t use mods or CC ). I might start using mods and CC if they bring in a new system for CC and mods that makes them easy to add and are prescreened for problems and they are already updated before patches go out.
Sims 4 is the only game I have bought all the packs for. I gave up on sims 3 early because of all the rabbit holes it started out with. Sims 2 I loved, even though I didn’t have all the packs. I shared that game with other family members……. Sims 4 is all mine…. Lol.
Multitasking
NPC aging
Personalities based on a wide variety of traits instead of 6 sliders
Able to visit other sims at their homes
Travel between worlds without it having to be a scripted "vacation"
Travel to another lot and time still passes at home
Can attend university without being imprisoned in the campus world until graduation
All the things that matter most to me are gameplay and it's way better in 4 than 2. I know, I miss the kids playing tag too, but that doesn't compare to all the other massive improvements.
And of course I want to mention clubs. Yes, it is a new feature, but I love it.
Plus if I want to expand my house, it is more easier and comfortable to do than in the previous games where I had to delete walls. Plus if I'm not happy with building's placement, I can just move it. No need to bulldoze the whole building!
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Toddlers are also done well, and I like that there are more hairstyle and clothing options for them in CAS. Sims 3 in particular didn’t have much in the way of hairstyles, even with the Store, and the CC options aren’t great (think ridiculously long and shiny hairstyles that no IRL toddler would have). I also do like that they start off being able to walk, and that they can help themselves to adult food and put themselves to bed (which I find useful as I usually play with more than one child in a family at once!)
I also like the huge variety of food dishes there are.
(Although the devs have a very unhealthy obsession with crop tops and above the ankle pants in this version, maybe that's the norm for California but for me it's definitely not!)
Build/Buy
Gameplay
Gallery (although it needs a serious overhaul and more filter options, that actually work!)
Plus the editing CAS allows to easily change both outfits and hairstyles. The Sims 3 was the worst in setting the hairstyle per outfit because you had to change outfit in live mode then change appearance then change outfit in live mode and then change outfit... The styling station helped, but it was so big. The Sims 2 had the ability to set the hairstyle per outfit easily with change appearance interaction.
Plus there are cheats that allows you to make your own NPC sims. Your own pizza delivery, your own professors, your own maids... I just wish it worked for all NPC sims (bartenders, gym trainers, librarians...)
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One thing I love about the Sims 4 that I think they did better than the Sims 3 is the design of Merfolk. For one thing, I wasn’t a fan of scales on a sim’s legs.
I love the variety of merfolk tails, and I wish I had more options!