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A mini Overwolf/CurseForge FAQ

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luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
edited October 20 in General Mods Discussion
A mini Overwolf/CurseForge FAQ

Will I have to pay?
No, you won't have to pay for mods you get from CurseForge.

Do creators have to pay?
No, creators don't pay to use CurseForge. In fact, there are mechanisms through which they can apply to receive some income from the site.

Can I still support creators on Patreon?
Yes, creators who use CurseForge will be allowed to accept your donations on Patreon etc.

Is this only for the special invited creators?
No, the invited creators will not be the only ones there ... except at launch. Other creators will be able to apply afterward.

Do creators have to join if they still want to make mods or CC?
No, creators are not required to join. Sims 4 will still have the old way to put mods/CC in your game.

Do I have to use this new thing?
No, Sims 4 will still have the old way to put mods/CC in your game.

If I don't want to use it but my favorite creator is there, do I have to use it? Or can creators post their mods and CC somewhere else too?
Yes, creators will be able to make their mods/CC available in multiple places.

Is this site safe for Simmers who don't want to be exposed to 18+ content?
Yes, there will be no 18+ content available via CurseForge. Content is checked against EA's rules on violence, nudity, etc.

Can creators who make 18+ content still use the site?
Yes, creators who make both game-rated and 18+ content can put their game-rated content on it. They can't put their 18+ content on it.

Will this work like Steam mods and auto-update my mods?
Yes, mods will auto-update when the creator releases an update on CurseForge.

Will there be a way for me to find mods I want to delete?
Yes, there will be a mod management tool; it has thumbnails and a search function.

Will the tool get rid of broken mods?
Yes, the tool will remove broken mods. It will also detect and remove duplicates.

Is the mod management tool only for CurseForge mods?
No, the mod manager will not be only for your CurseForge-based mods. You will be able to see your other mods in it too. However, mods you get somewhere else won't auto-delete or auto-update.

Does this thing have two different names?
No, the platform doesn't have two different names. Overwolf is the company that owns CurseForge.

Is this some new experiment I'd be part of?
No, the platform isn't a new experiment. It's widely used for Minecraft, World of Warcraft, and many other games.

Is console getting mods and CC?
No, this doesn't mean console is getting mods and CC.

Will Mac users get to use CurseForge too?
Yes, this option will be available on both Mac and PC... but not right away. The initial launch will be PC only. Mac users will get access later, probably early 2023.

Will you still do the Broken Mods thread on the Forums?
Ummmm... I'd like to not need to? I hope that eventually Sims 4 modding gets to the point that there's not enough need for my list to warrant the time it takes up. I'd like to see most content move to a more automated system.


For more info, see the Overwolf launch video here:

and the info on the main page at https://thesims4.curseforge.com/
and this EA post: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/the-sims-4-collaborates-with-overwolf-to-make-user-generated-content



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  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    edited November 15
    Creators in the "Sims 4 ModSquad" at Launch

    Mostly Modders
    Bosselady
    Carl
    Chingyu
    Deaderpool
    icemunmun
    KawaiiStacie
    LittleMsSam
    MizoreYukii
    RAVASHEEN
    SimRealist
    sims4multiplayer
    Somik and Severinka
    TURBO
    TwistedMexi


    Mostly CC Creators
    aharris00britney
    arethabee
    Danuta720 (or 72)
    Felixandre
    Harrie
    Katverse
    LittleDica
    Luke
    Max20
    MiikoCC
    Nando
    obscurus-sim
    Peacemaker
    peachyfaerie
    PlayersWonderland
    PowLuna
    Sentate
    Simna Sims
    SixamCC
    VanillaSims
    VictorAndrade


    Please let me know if I've missed any!
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  • filipomelfilipomel Posts: 1,621 Member
    This is a game changer. Sims 4 joining this platform is what I consider a true expansion, expanding the limits and potential of the game, the content creators, and the community at large. I honestly never thought this day would come, I have been dreaming something like this would come to the Sims 4, who would've thought such a fantasy would become a reality. So happy to see some of my favourite creators already on board as well!

    I guess the team really meant when they said "You make the Sims."
  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    Adding more names :) Carl & MizoreYukii

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  • DaiyuDaiyu Posts: 761 Member
    Very helpful!

    I have one suggestion, maybe mention that it's for Windows only? Just a thought.
  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    edited October 19
    Daiyu wrote: »
    Very helpful!

    I have one suggestion, maybe mention that it's for Windows only? Just a thought.

    Is it, for Sims in particular? Because there are downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux (but Linux is only for WoW) on this page: https://download.curseforge.com/ (Scroll down)
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  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 29,219 Member
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  • DaiyuDaiyu Posts: 761 Member
    Daiyu wrote: »
    Very helpful!

    I have one suggestion, maybe mention that it's for Windows only? Just a thought.

    Is it, for Sims in particular? Because there are downloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux (but Linux is only for WoW) on this page: https://download.curseforge.com/ (Scroll down)

    OH! Well, that's good. I thought I saw it say Windows only somewhere. But looks like I'm (happily) wrong about that. :)
  • JyotaiJyotai Posts: 490 Member
    edited October 19
    Ok...

    I'll put this here since it's got it's own thread now.

    I'm extremely suspicious of Overwolf. They might not be malware now, but they have been caught doing it in the past. When they took over Curseforge things started happening with it on my system and many others. I used 'Curse' and it's addon managers in one version or another for 15 years.

    Maybe they've cleaned up their act. Vegas used to be pretty shady and now it's a family theme park so things can change.

    Here's my last statement in the other thread that started mention of this issue.

    ******
    quote="friendsfan367
    News
    EA is partnering with OverWolf to bring Sims mods to CurseForge. There will be several modders with content already there when this launches, but it will be optional for modders to use.
    i know you said no questions but will they still be free?
    ---
    Yes. There is no charge on CurseForge for mods. Modders are also welcome to collect donations from players elsewhere. Mods would also be automatically updated for you.
    Jyotai wrote: »

    Worst outcome possible there. Curseforge is more or less malware.

    No idea where you're getting that from

    Former usage of it, and communication with others who used it. Once it was acquired by Overwolf they loaded it up with spam, some of which put malware on people's systems. Even when you managed to avoid malware, it would slow a system down and run up your CPU with all sorts of "things" it decided to do in the background.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwolf/comments/k9d8y2/overwolf_is_bloatware_just_give_us_curseforge/
    https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/267658-minecraft-javawexe-in-the-curseforge-is-flagged-as-malware/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/k4vfef/are_the_curseforgeoverwolf_clients_considered_to/
    https://techysmag.com/619/is-curseforge-safe/
    www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=nfE7vICGzmw ("someone's how-to on putting malware on curseforge").
    https://www.makeuseof.com/minecraft-is-a-hotbed-for-malware-heres-why/
    https://bittsguides.com/overwolf-curseforge-review/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/jqnzy6/there_is_an_alternative_to_the_sht_that_is/


    We can go on and on.

    These links go back and forth and aren't as conclusive as things looked back in 2021. So you could come away from those with an opposite conclusion. Most of my opinion is based on seeing my own computer's and those I was gaming with start having issues and comparing our Network traffic and CPU usage with each other and against systems free of Overwolf...


    There are other addon managers out there that are 'ad free'. Especially after Overwolf took over Curseforge, people put together solutions to avoid infested or 'resource hijacked' systems.

    That said, the Overwolf people went after any of these other options that were letting you download from their servers without having your system infected:
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-end-of-ajour-overwolf-announces-new-api-roadmap-to-restrict-third-party-324892
    So options have narrowed since I was last looking.


    Maybe they're cleaning up their act now. When I gave it up they were forcing Overwolf to be run alongside it and that was a double hit of lag, spam, and weird processes running on my machines.

    I used one version or another of curse's addon manager from 2006 to 2020 or 2021. Once Overwolf took over things just got really weird and stuff started happening to my system, and to a lot of people I was gaming with. So we found ways to move on. Then I moved on from the games that used those things for off-topic reasons well covered in the news.

    I used Curse for some games years and years ago is Curseforge the same thing?

    It's been sold multiple times

    I'm putting this reply in an edit before your post because talking about this, even the first mention of it above not by me - is off topic for this thread. I think there's another thread specifically about this, and I might join that.


    That's my piece. Since it seems some people here have an actual affiliation with Overwolf and so will be primed to defend it, I'm not going to stick around and debate them.

    Just here to note my disappointment. There still are alternatives. Like Nexus popular in the Skyrim community or Minion popular in the Elder Scrolls community. Even the 'horrid method' of using github for it that was being used by Final Fantasy MMOers for sub-parts of their now banned mod (just to give an example even worse that Overwolf - but in that case only because it's not user friendly. Technology wise the Github method was actually the most the most security conscious).

    But I imagine Overwolf has better company reps that were more polished in presenting the offer.

    .


    I don't use Discord because it doesn't support multiple accounts and I don't need folks at work wondering what I'm doing even on my own time. Until Discord catches up with every single other voice / video conferencing system, I limit where I use it:
  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    More names added to the list!
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  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    Thanks @simgirl1010 ! Adding that :)
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  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 5,492 Member
    edited October 20
    @luthienrising I found the clarification I was looking for. Sorry for any inconvenience.
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  • Atreya33Atreya33 Posts: 3,148 Member
    A mini Overwolf/CurseForge FAQ

    Will I have to pay?
    No, you won't have to pay for mods you get from CurseForge.

    ...

    Do creators have to join if they still want to make mods or CC?
    No, creators are not required to join. Sims 4 will still have the old way to put mods/CC in your game.

    Do I have to use this new thing?
    No, Sims 4 will still have the old way to put mods/CC in your game.

    ..

    Thank you for compiling this list of FAQ. It is very helpful. I am relieved that it looks like I can still use those mods who might not end up on the new platform and happy that they remain free of charge.
  • siirysiirsiirysiir Posts: 6 New Member
    Thank you so much @Jyotai for posting! After doing some own digging Overwolf definitely seems suspicious and I don't think it's wise to start blindly using it. Obviously some people will and I'll be waiting to see reports from other users if things like CPU/GPU and network usage start going up in a way it shouldn't on their systems. I'm a little worried for this development as modding is super popular for Sims 4 and some people might want to take advantage of that (as has already happened but I just worry this will be another platform for it..)
  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    Making one revision to the FAQ, from creators do get income to that there are mechanisms by which they can get income. Thanks to @LittleMsSam for the inside info :)
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  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    edited October 20
    Updated info for Mac users (different from yesterday's source):

    The initial launch will be PC only. Mac users will get access later, probably early 2023.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/GilTovly/status/1582548191442264064
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  • ClousinatorsClousinators Posts: 586 Member
    Since CC will be on the new curseforge....does this mean we can now upload lots or sims with CC to the gallery without the items being flagged?
  • luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 36,471 Member
    Since CC will be on the new curseforge....does this mean we can now upload lots or sims with CC to the gallery without the items being flagged?

    No, it does not.
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  • Danuta720Danuta720 Posts: 45 Member
    Adding more names :)

    - PlayersWonderland - CAS
    - Danuta720 (or 72) - Lots (also walls, floors, and Sims)
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 29,219 Member
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  • AncientMuseAncientMuse Posts: 726 Member
    edited November 14
    I can't wait to see what the cc creators are going to be posting up tomorrow. Do you think they'll add new stuff? Or will they add cc that's already on their patreon/websites?

    I hope there's some new mods/cc we haven't seen yet.
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  • JALJAL Posts: 479 Member
    I hope it's both new and old. I want to download the mods I already have from there so that I can just have them autoupdate.
  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 29,219 Member
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  • simgirl1010simgirl1010 Posts: 29,219 Member
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