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SEXUAL ORIENTATION IN THE SIMS 4 - New Update to Feature Sexual Orientation in Create a Sim

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  • SheepilingSheepiling Posts: 586 Member
    edited July 2022
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.
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  • somewhsomesomewhsome Posts: 910 Member
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.

    He was a premade, not a generated townie. :)
  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    @EA_Cade

    I am sorry for the posts that I made that were inappropriate. It was out of frustration and feeling personally assaulted. I appreciate the reminder of the rules.

    Will you be officially responding to the concerns raised in this thread now so that any misunderstandings and misleading posts can be learned up?
  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 9,396 Member
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.

    I don't follow her so I haven't seen the sim in question. That's interesting though because in the live stream they said randoms wouldn't get an orientation. Something to keep an eye on and hopefully it's not a bug.
  • GirafHuntrGirafHuntr Posts: 759 Member

    I don't follow her so I haven't seen the sim in question. That's interesting though because in the live stream they said randoms wouldn't get an orientation. Something to keep an eye on and hopefully it's not a bug.

    @Sheepiling I saw this too, but then someone asked the post-er to clarify which Sim this was. It was not a randomly generated NPC, it was one of the pre-mades that comes with this EP. They DO have sexual orientation preferences set. Randomly generated NPCs will not.

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  • telemwilltelemwill Posts: 1,811 Member
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.

    I don't follow her so I haven't seen the sim in question. That's interesting though because in the live stream they said randoms wouldn't get an orientation. Something to keep an eye on and hopefully it's not a bug.

    I watched LilSimsie's stream The Sim in question was Ash's stepbrother, Noah. He is open to romance with men or women, but will only mess around with men. So he is not randomly generated, but is a premade that lives in the town.
  • JackOnYourBackJackOnYourBack Posts: 1,261 Member
    I understand new premades might have a sexual/ romantic preference in the future. But what about townies? The NCP's of the worlds if you will, will they have them randomised or will they all continue to be bisexual as the sims are now?
    I actually think I'd like them to be randomised. That would basically be instead of any type of personality.

    What about randomising when a sim ages up? I'd love not to have to make the choices all the time when a sim ages up, like how I can randomise a name or traits - love that! (wish we could do that for aspirations too) - I'd really like to see a randomise button for when a sim age up to a teen, that be so cool and we could obviously change it if we didn't like it just like with names or traits.
    And if you don't click on it the sim will be bisexual as they are now. I don't think this will be a thing though and we will have to make all the choices but it would be nice...

    I also hope they will add an attraction system similar to TS2 in the future where you can set liking red hair, money, career oriented, family oriented, occult, servo etc. That'd be lovely.
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  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    edited July 2022
    I understand new premades might have a sexual/ romantic preference in the future. But what about townies? The NCP's of the worlds if you will, will they have them randomised or will they all continue to be bisexual as the sims are now?
    I actually think I'd like them to be randomised. That would basically be instead of any type of personality.

    What about randomising when a sim ages up? I'd love not to have to make the choices all the time when a sim ages up, like how I can randomise a name or traits - love that! (wish we could do that for aspirations too) - I'd really like to see a randomise button for when a sim age up to a teen, that be so cool and we could obviously change it if we didn't like it just like with names or traits.
    And if you don't click on it the sim will be bisexual as they are now. I don't think this will be a thing though and we will have to make all the choices but it would be nice...

    I also hope they will add an attraction system similar to TS2 in the future where you can set liking red hair, money, career oriented, family oriented, occult, servo etc. That'd be lovely.

    No, townies will not be affected by the new system unless you change their settings. This is according to others in here who watched the live stream. So, it's unofficially official...I think.

    Let me clarify, pack stars (those who were and will be designed for the new packs) will have pre-determined sexuality. Whereas, random NPC's will remain unrouched.
  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 9,396 Member
    telemwill wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    Sheepiling wrote: »
    logion wrote: »
    So if you dont use the feature at all, no townies use it either and its as if the game is the same as before? So basically thats "turning it off"? Theres no reason for it not to be able to turn it off, unless this is meant by its opt-in. Also will setting your orientation change who may be your acting partner will be in movies?

    lilsimsie showed footage on her livestream where she encountered a sim who was interested in her sim romantically but was also not interested in wohooing with her sim (because of his sexual orientation) so I think townies will get it randomized.

    I'm pretty sure that it's easy enough to change it in CAS if you want to play your game differently than what the game assigned for the townies (through household management)

    I'm guessing premades will have default settings.

    So then going into CAS for every sim and then adjusting. What if people want it as how it originally was then? So its not necessarily opt-in if it randomizes the townies. Thats not really getting to play your way if it affects your whole town and it's a base game update. Theres also many other things that are "a fact of life" and not in the game, but then again sims isn't supposed to be about realism (we just had werewolves) and its supposed to be highly customizable? You can toggle weather, life states, aging etc. Idk but that response about why it cant be toggled comes off as rude. They would lose nothing by making it toggable and not wanting to use a system isnt a personal attack against anyone. Its like preemptively trying to say 'if you dont want to use this system, you dont think lgbtq+ are to be respected'

    I think a toggle would be useful for challenges too. I'd keep the new orientation system in my regular legacy gameplay, but if I wanted to play the 100 Baby Challenge or a Black Widow Challenge, being able to toggle this off would make those challenges easier, considering random townies are going to be generated with the new system and your sim may spend all day romancing someone only to find out you can't use them for the challenge.

    Also, in terms of the "facts of life" excuse, I am a Wiccan and I can't celebrate Imbolc with Seasons without appropriating a Menorah for the Festive Lighting tradition. If Sims is going to be about representing minorities as facts of life that shouldn't be ignored, could EA please add tealights, votives, torches, and campfires/bonfires to the "festive lighting" tradition? So many other cultures have their holidays added through various updates (which i love, move inclusivity for all pls), but any Pagan things are just the leftovers of content being developed with a Christian mindset, when Christians are the ones that copied these traditions from us in the first place.

    Random townies will still behave as they do now. The sexual orientation will only affect the pack premades from HSY on.

    The thread I replied to was saying lilsimsie did a stream where a generated townie was capable of being romantically interested in her sim, but was not interested in woohoo. Which would make challenges written before this update, or before the 4th iteration of this franchise, difficult if you don't want to use cheats to edit any sims.

    I don't follow her so I haven't seen the sim in question. That's interesting though because in the live stream they said randoms wouldn't get an orientation. Something to keep an eye on and hopefully it's not a bug.

    I watched LilSimsie's stream The Sim in question was Ash's stepbrother, Noah. He is open to romance with men or women, but will only mess around with men. So he is not randomly generated, but is a premade that lives in the town.

    Cool. So things are working like the Gurus said they would.
  • DaniRose2143DaniRose2143 Posts: 9,396 Member
    I understand new premades might have a sexual/ romantic preference in the future. But what about townies? The NCP's of the worlds if you will, will they have them randomised or will they all continue to be bisexual as the sims are now?
    I actually think I'd like them to be randomised. That would basically be instead of any type of personality.

    What about randomising when a sim ages up? I'd love not to have to make the choices all the time when a sim ages up, like how I can randomise a name or traits - love that! (wish we could do that for aspirations too) - I'd really like to see a randomise button for when a sim age up to a teen, that be so cool and we could obviously change it if we didn't like it just like with names or traits.
    And if you don't click on it the sim will be bisexual as they are now. I don't think this will be a thing though and we will have to make all the choices but it would be nice...

    I also hope they will add an attraction system similar to TS2 in the future where you can set liking red hair, money, career oriented, family oriented, occult, servo etc. That'd be lovely.

    Random townies will behave just like they always have, up for whatever while wearing the days latest fashion disaster.
  • MaggieMarleyMaggieMarley Posts: 5,299 Member
    I also hope they will add an attraction system similar to TS2 in the future where you can set liking red hair, money, career oriented, family oriented, occult, servo etc. That'd be lovely.
    I would love this too! I'm pleased to see them add gender preferences but I thought that while they were at it they could have added these kinds of preferences too and I'm sad that they didn't.
    What about randomising when a sim ages up? I'd love not to have to make the choices all the time when a sim ages up, like how I can randomise a name or traits - love that! (wish we could do that for aspirations too) - I'd really like to see a randomise button for when a sim age up to a teen, that be so cool and we could obviously change it if we didn't like it just like with names or traits.
    Also agree on this! I love randomising the traits of my born in game sims and just going with what comes up. So, it'd be nice to have a similar feature whereby you can have the game randomly pick their sexual/romantic orientation for them. Having said that, I suppose that you could still find a way to randomise it yourself by numbering the different possible orientations that they could have and using a random number generator to pick which orientation you give them. I do this with aspirations currently.
  • SheepilingSheepiling Posts: 586 Member
    GirafHuntr wrote: »

    I don't follow her so I haven't seen the sim in question. That's interesting though because in the live stream they said randoms wouldn't get an orientation. Something to keep an eye on and hopefully it's not a bug.

    @Sheepiling I saw this too, but then someone asked the post-er to clarify which Sim this was. It was not a randomly generated NPC, it was one of the pre-mades that comes with this EP. They DO have sexual orientation preferences set. Randomly generated NPCs will not.

    Thanks for clearing that up! That's good to know
  • catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    edited July 2022
    @EA_Cade

    A question about this:
    "How will this impact my game if I don’t change the Sexual Orientation settings?
    If you change none of the Sexual Orientation settings, your Sim will romantically behave as they currently do prior to the release of this feature."

    So my Sims will be 'Hetero' men and women if I don't choose anything, correct?

    We should have the ability to toggle all these odd options to off. Because we can't my kids have told me my grandchildren are no longer allowed to play the Sims.
    Post edited by catmando830 on
  • SimsLovinLycanSimsLovinLycan Posts: 1,910 Member
    edited July 2022
    I'm glad they're adding sexual orientation, and I hope this is a baby step to a more in-depth attraction system later on (you know, one where we can use traits and physical attributes as turnoffs/turnons). Though, this does make the female werewolf beast form customization issue stick out even more as a side-effect. All of these great tools to customize our sims' sexual and gender identity...but female werewolves have their busts locked to flat and you have to pull the hip and waist sliders to maximim or near maximum to give them proper feminine curves when transformed. Thanks for the official sexual orientation options...now please fix female werewolves' beast forms.

    (And, yes, with every single gender identity and sexual orientation update put out from now on, I will harp on the female werewolf issue until it is resolved. You can't give us every gender expression and sexual orientation option under the sun, and then force us to accept mandatory de-feminization of female werewolves when they transform.)
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  • catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    edited July 2022
    I'm glad they're adding sexual orientation, and I hope this is a baby step to a more in-depth attraction system later on (you know, one where we can use traits and physical attributes as turnoffs/turnons). Though, this does make the female werewolf beast form customization issue stick out even more as a side-effect. All of these great tools to customize our sims' sexual and gender identity...but female werewolves have their busts locked to flat and you have to pull the hip and waist sliders to maximim or near maximum to give them proper feminine curves when transformed. Thanks for the official sexual orientation options...now please fix female werewolves' beast forms.

    Answer about the female werewolves breasts:

    Can female werewolves’ breasts be seen?

    Yes, but they’d be wolf te-ats, not human breasts.

    One might think that a wolf with human breasts would draw attention first to the presence of breasts, NOT the absence of a tail. So “no tail” being the distinguishing mark for classic werewolves means their breasts are actually wolf te-ats.



  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    @EA_Cade

    A question about this:
    "How will this impact my game if I don’t change the Sexual Orientation settings?
    If you change none of the Sexual Orientation settings, your Sim will romantically behave as they currently do prior to the release of this feature."

    So my Sims will be 'normal men and women if I don't choose anything, correct?

    We should have the ability to toggle all these odd options to off. Because we can't my kids have told me my grandchildren are no longer allowed to play the Sims.

    Apparently, you can turn them off individually per sim. The only sims that will have a specific Orientation will be the premades for upcoming packs. Randomly generated sims will not be affected.

    Also, without getting into your family's belief systems, I will point out that prior to this system, woohoo was indiscriminate to gender. With this feature, if "inappropriate" behavior between same-gender persons is the issue, it will be able to now prevent them, thus creating the discrimination that was missing before.

    I mean no disrespect to your family, I am simply pointing out that the system allows or prevents those pairings that we do not want.
  • EA_CadeEA_Cade Posts: 7,559 EA Community Manager
    @EA_Cade

    So my Sims will be 'normal men and women if I don't choose anything, correct?

    Don't demean others by referring to heterosexuals as "normal men and women".
    We should have the ability to toggle all these odd options to off. Because we can't my kids have told me my grandchildren are no longer allowed to play the Sims.

    We've not been shy in sharing our stance on this.

    Can the LGBTQIA+ community toggle off being who they are? Should they? No.
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  • simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 1,488 Member
    I've heard conflicting information that if you don't touch anything or set any options in CAS, sims remain "bisexual" as they currently are. Is this true?
  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    Please remember that the word "normal" is relative. Normal does not apply to everything the same way and what is normal to some is abnormal to others. So we do need to be careful not to call those with which we disagree or don't understand ad abnormal by our meaning.
  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    I've heard conflicting information that if you don't touch anything or set any options in CAS, sims remain "bisexual" as they currently are. Is this true?

    That seems to be the case. Although, I wouldn't necessarily say "bisexual" as that implies that it is still a sexual attraction. Sims have only ever been gay, straight, bi or whatever if we play them that way. They've never truly been actually bisexual.
  • catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    edited July 2022
    @EA_Cade

    I changed normal to hetero in my original response.
  • PenguinFoopPenguinFoop Posts: 1,582 Member
    @EA_Cade

    I changed normal to hetero in my original response.

    Thank you.
  • OEII1001OEII1001 Posts: 3,682 Member
    This seems good. I look forward to using the new features.
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