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Divided (Updated 26/11/23)

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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    New chapter time! This one's an exciting one... at least I think so...It's now on the Chapter Index.

    I plan to catch up with others' stories on Friday/Saturday < 3
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  • GlacierSnowGlacierSnow Posts: 2,131 Member
    New chapter!

    First of all I need to gush about your screenshots in this chapter! :love: Wow, they are beautiful! I especially love the shots in the scene with the conversation between Julian and the high priest. The colors! The lighting! The compositions! I kept scrolling back up and looking at them.

    This chapter is an interesting (potential?) turning point for Julian. Up until now, he has seemed kind of wavering back and forth before between the faith he was taught and his personal beliefs. Seems he finally really took a stand. It will be very interesting to see how things develop between him and Reynold. As well as what the ramifications of his choices are.
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    @GlacierSnow Thank you for your comment as always < 3333
    Thank you, I had fun with the screenshots for this one. My favourite one is the one with Reynold with his hands out and the lunar magic glow in his eye < 3 Indeed, finally Reynold and Julian have something they agree on. I think similarly to Mother Joyce, Shepherd Julian has questioned the teachings and beliefs for a while, but he knows better than to a) question his idea of the Watcher and b) question the higher-ups within the Jacoban hierarchy. I think deep down part of him envies that Reynold can just change the rules whenever he wants really.

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  • HermioneSimsHermioneSims Posts: 634 Member
    I'm really distracted this week, I read the notification about the new chapter days ago and then completely forgot about it... Anyway:
    I had some ideas about how this chapter could have been after reading the previous one, but this chapter really caught me off guard! Even if it makes complete sense, I wasn't expecting Julian to suspect so quickly that either Clem or Alice could be witches, and even less so I expected him to take the responsibility for what had happened.

    Him being attacked and almost killed was quite shocking as well, and even more so it was seeing Reynold both healing him and showing his magic to him. At first I thought that Reynold could have run away after healing most of Julian's wounds and before he woke up, but this was also quite an important chance to show that magic isn't only a threat to people. Also, if Julian had woken up almost completely healed after being attacked, he would have had all the right to suspect even more about Clem or Alice being witches (which would have been a problem anyway).
    Julian being familiar with Lunvinchenaîné magic to the point to be able to associate it with lycanthropy sounds like a very possible source of trouble in the next chapters.

    What I like a lot about this story is that most characters (at some point) show not to have a purely black-or-white morality, but to stand somewhere in between. It makes them much more relatable, and this is not something easy to achieve when writing a story.
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    @HermioneSims No worry! Thank you for commenting as always < 3
    Deep down, I think if Clem was a witch, I think Shepherd Julian wouldn't have had the heart to hand her in anyway. It may not seem like it but he does genuinely think the world of her. He knew his privilege within the Jacoban cathedral as both a man and a High Shepherd and used it to protect her. I think Clem is the sort of person who 'doesn't want saving' but it's also good he did, because they'd have likely suspected her straight away.

    I came up with the idea of Shepherd Julian getting attacked because I thought it'd be a good way for Reynold to reveal his secret that way and then attempt something of an allyship with Shepherd Julian. Of course, how said allyship will go down between both Jacobans and Peterans is yet to be seen... Yeah you're spot-on, that's why Reynold stays- to show Shepherd Julian that a) not all magic is bad and b) that he is the witch and not Clem. Shepherd Julian had mild suspicions that it was Reynold, but not as much as he initially suspected Clem.

    Ah yes! I didn't think of this until near the end of the chapter, remembering Julian is from Champs les Sims, and the mooncaster languag being based on French, he would have had at least some knowledge of them...and now I think Julian is almost terrified of Reynold even if his werewolf thing is mostly under control now.

    I'm glad you like it < 3 Almost everyone in this story is in the grey area, and the good/bad divide is less clear than it is in my older stuff. A lot of it lends to it being historical, and differing attitudes and such. Some of it is because I was consciously trying to make most characters morally ambiguous in some way. Shepherd Julian probably being one of the most ambiguous.

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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    Not a proper chapter update, but a quick read with some fun screenshots. This was just an excuse to take fun pictures and play favourites.
    For those that don't remember, the character narrating is (slight spoiler for start of Act Two):
    Alistair is Reynold's father.
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  • GlacierSnowGlacierSnow Posts: 2,131 Member
    This is an interesting insight into Oskar's character.

    I always like getting some more backstory on characters. I had wondered what had happened to him between the time of the story where he is turned and the point where he enters the story in Divided. It's sort of alluded to in a few places, but I like getting to see a glimpse of it.

    It's interesting to me that he now struggles with fantasies (of completely draining people) that appear to really upset him. A past in which that was something he actually did and enjoyed doing suggests that something else happened to make him start to regret that. A lot to ponder...

    Your screenshots are pretty. :love: I like that werewolf with the white fur.
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    edited January 21
    @GlacierSnow Thank you for commenting as always < 3

    I do want to do more backstory stuff for both Oskar and Violeta since so much has been touched on but not really in-depth, and so much has happened with their lifetimes that it seems a bit weird to never cover any of it, so I will probably do more side chapters for the both of them soon enough.
    There is a reason as to why that is, about the whole thing with him and his bloodlust, and why it seems to be easy here and yet it gave him a breakdown when it came to Dinah. I'm not sure how spoiler-y it would be for me to tell you now, but it will get brought up eventually.

    I'm glad you like the screenshots < 3
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  • HermioneSimsHermioneSims Posts: 634 Member
    Interesting...
    ... the bloodmoon war was named quite a few times up to now, it's nice to see the attitude of characters we know in that contest. Oskar was quite scary apparently, at least when it came to witchfinders and his self-control when blood was involved. Seeing a bit of Reynold's parents POV was quite interesting as well, outside of the war situation they seem to have had similar conflicts as Reynold has.

    Also, beautiful pictures! All those poses and reshade for the night scenes don't seem easy to achieve at all!
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    @HermioneSims Thank you for your comment as always < 3
    Yeah, it's touched on a bit here and there throughout the story. Oh yeah, in the past Oskar was much more terrifying than he is now. Alistair often found the temptation to just fully give in to the wolf, and as such didn't bother to teach his son about it...but of course we see how that played out and it wasn't well X-X Thank you so much! Those scenes were hard to do, but thanks to talented pose makers was possible. I could never make those sword poses myself X_X
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  • Lucy_HenleyLucy_Henley Posts: 2,811 Member
    Great read!
    Alistair really resembles Reynold! A couple of times I was like “wait, who’s that?” but then I remembered that Reynold has glasses.
    He also makes a good point about Peterism and pacifism. Pacifism is good in some respects, but sometimes you have to defend yourself. And not everyone in a particular sect is going to believe the exact same thing.
  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    @Lucy_Henley Thank you for commenting as always < 3
    Haha yeah Reynold is the spitting image of his dad! Yeah, in a similar vein to Reynold, Alistair isn’t the pacifist that most Peterans are. The way he sees it, blood has to be shed to protect the werewolves, vampires and witches even though he took no pleasure in it all like Oskar did. Whilst Oskar did it mainly to protect people, part of it was purely to satisfy his bloodlust both literal and metaphorical.
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  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,769 Member
    edited January 22
    @SnowBnuuy an update :smiley:
    I do want to do more backstory stuff for both Oskar and Violeta since so much has been touched on but not really in-depth, and so much has happened with their lifetimes that it seems a bit weird to never cover any of it, so I will probably do more side chapters for the both of them soon enough.
    Yay! :D<3
    Also, where do you prefer comments? Here or on your blog?
    Peterism wasn't just about pacifism, however- it was about defending the good from the evil, and I couldn't do that kneeling in front of a statue every single day.
    I know that Clem isn’t a Peteran, but I feel like this way of thinking would resonate with her too. It’s a shame her father didn’t value her. I see both of his children in him. That aside, I appreciate the insight into Alistair’s character, especially his opinions on how to handle his wolf.

    We’re seeing glimpses into darker sides of Oskar’s personality too. I’m glad? that past-him only had a fascination with schadenfreude instead of just taking delight in others’ pain.

    I’m not sure how I feel about Oskar’s confidence. Even monkeys fall from trees. I hope he remains vigilant.

    These screenshots are cool (as well as unsettling and terrifying).
  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    edited January 22
    @haneul Thank you for your comment as always < 3 Either here or the blog is fine!
    Yeah, Clem and Reynold both have beliefs that cross over with the 'other' religion a fair bit. Yeah, Alistair is a deadbeat across the board honestly : P For Oskar, the delight in others' pain and the delight in being the one to do it was a massive crossover as well. As for how much has changed, well, I'm not sure, we'll have to see...

    EDIT: I've made a start on the next proper chapter, so no delay as I thought. Good news everyone, Kat will be back next chapter!
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    New chapter has been uploaded to the Chapter Index.

    I may have to do a fairly big timeskip soon of a few years or so, and it might not make story sense entirely but I really have little choice with this story :D
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  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,769 Member
    Chapter 2:11
    It is nice to see everyone gradually gathering in one place, but I wish that Katlego left the others on better terms. Katlego has to stick to her values, but I am still sad about a decision to spare someone in one of your other stories where that decision ultimately resulted in tragedy. I hope that isn't repeated here.

    I'm not sure how worried I should be about her becoming overcharged? or ill from spellcasting. I feel like it's something to worry about--bleeding from your eyes can't be good and what if she needs to cast a powerful spell in the future. It's not something that should just be brushed off.

    How does Oskar's wealth compare to Annorin's? They're both wealthy enough, but is Annorin much more so?
    There's the inn, I suppose- they may have rooms free for you both.

    This made me laugh because I think of Ellie and Kat as a pair (or a trio with Nia) that comes as a package deal. Rooms? I imagine they'll stay together in one room, but I get that their relationship isn't obvious to strangers even strangers who recognize Katlego.
  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    edited January 27
    @haneul Thank you for commenting as always < 3
    Back in the day Oskar's family lived pretty comfortably, but he was nowhere near as rich as Annorin was. Sadly now most of his money wasn't legal tender but also not quite old enough to sell the notes to collectors XD But what was left managed to buy a comfortable house. Part of me actually likes to imagine a lot of his fancier outfits were taken from the nastier victims, though a fair few he likely bought with the money he made making those little figures in the meantime.

    As for Annorin, Annorin could probably solve every social issue in Henford and still have plenty left, and the reason he charges so much for his cures (as well as good old fashioned capitalism) is because he gets a lot of custom from as far away as San Myshuno, because his cures are cheaper than any they can get in their home city. It's mostly only the elites that can afford any of his cures. So in his mind, if it's no loss to his custom to charge such a hefty amount why should he, even if plenty of poorer people die as a result. He's a pretty good and knowledgeable healer, but that knowledge is wasted when he only cares about being rich more than anything else.

    In one of the somewhat recent chapters, even back when Oskar's parents were alive, their most expensive piece they ever sold wasn't as much as what Annorin charges for his various cures. Oh yeah, you know how bad overcharge can get. Passing out and a little blood is thankfully the lighter end of the spectrum of overcharge symptoms, but she'd best be careful in the future.

    Yeah that's something I didn't think about actually. Maybe something will come up about the room situation, I'm not sure yet. Yeah you're definitely right on the money with the event in a past story that you're referring to. Given how willing the other characters are to take a life if needed, that's likely to cause some sort of conflict. And I agree, it's fun to see all the mains coming together. That was the main reason I wrote that scene to be honest, to show Kat's comparative pacifism and get her back to Henford. I think she enjoyed her time at the little coven type place, but also it's not really a place for someone like Kat who's not entirely willing to kill a man.
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  • haneulhaneul Posts: 1,769 Member
    @SnowBnuuy Thanks!
    I remembered bits and pieces about Annorin's wealth before, especially with him driving Kat out of town and Oskar being shocked when his son told him how much Annorin charged for cures, but I wasn't sure how his wealth compared to others who are also relatively well off.

    Another interesting thing (to me) about Katlego's pacifism is how it compares to Clem's killing of a witch hunter. It seems like Katlego has more options because she can use magic to do various things, whereas Clem could probably come up with something creative if she had time, but often the only option she may have is to fight to the death in self-defense without any neat way of cleaning up the situation afterwards (she can't erase memories).
  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    edited January 27
    @haneul Yeah you got it!
    Mischief magic even though it's mostly non-violent can be just as horrible. Mess with somebody's thoughts enough and it can cause all sorts of psychological problems, sometimes bad enough that maybe it's really no better than just killing them in the first place. It's why Kat uses her magic sparingly; to her, messing with someone's head like that just isn't right either, which is why she only messed him about a bit so that he wouldn't remember that moment and would be too confused to go after witches for a while. Also some of the mischief magic spells are incredibly dark if you think about it, like the one that causes deep sadness and the one that can make someone feel love for somebody else, anger, etc. So it's lucky that Kat is fairly responsible with it most of the time, and only does what she needs to for her and her friends' safety.

    Exactly that- Clem doesn't have any magic to fall back on, so her only way to defend herself and Alice was to just kill the guy. In a way, I think she's thankful that she doesn't have magic though, especially seeing what Reynold's constantly dealing with.
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  • HermioneSimsHermioneSims Posts: 634 Member
    New chapter!
    On one hand I'm happy to see a new chapter about Kat, but on the other hand I realize that her returning back into the story means bringing her again in the midst of troubles... And in fact she had a fight with a witchfinder already, and also a very bad argument with the other witches she lives with. I also agree with the comments about the overcharge symptoms, they definitively seemed quite worrisome...
    As a side note, the fight's pictures were so pretty, with all the spells glows in the night, the shield, and even the motion blur, it looks like a lot of work!

    And then of course Oskar was the only person they could meet during a full moon night with an ongoing "werewolf alert on"... Considering how much both he and Kat hate Annorin, an alliance between them could be very interesting to read!
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    @HermioneSims Thank you for commenting as always < 3
    Yeah it's good to have her back with the rest of the crew! But things are gradually getting worse now, yay X_X OH yeah, overcharge is not fun in this universe, not at all and rarely worth the risk. I'm glad you liked the fight pics! I love overdoing motion blur : P Yeah originally she was gonna go straight to Reynold but then full moon, so the only other safe night-time option was everyone's friendly neighbourhood vampire : P OH yeah they'd make a perfect alliance! Well maybe, we know Oskar would happily rip somebody's face off and Kat wouldn't. : P
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  • GlacierSnowGlacierSnow Posts: 2,131 Member
    Yay! New chapter!

    Okay, I'm just straight up happy to see Kat getting back into the mix. I enjoyed her most when she was in town mingling with the other main characters and sassing the annoying rich guy. :lol: Pleased that Ellie came along with her though.

    This was an interesting chapter to come so soon after Clem's confrontation with a witchfinder. The encounters both start out similar, but go very differently because of abilities and values. A cleverly done contrast. I like it.

    I expect there will probably be consequences for that decision. From one direction or another. :fearful:

    Oskar knowing who Kat was kind of surprised me (I don't recall them meeting before) but I suppose in that small town word gets around...

    Your note at the end about why Kat couldn't just go talk to Reynald right now made me laugh. Hard to keep track of everything sometimes. This happens to me too.
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    @GlacierSnow Thank you for commenting as always < 3
    I was supposed to be keeping a constant eye on the moon phase to prevent plot convenience but I've forgotten a few times XD Would've been fun if Kat went to the monastery and got greeted by a werewolf! I'm glad you think so. Kat is very different to the others in that she's a) never killed anyone and b) preferably, never wants to. I'm glad to see her back to! I feel like although she's spent most of her life living in a rural area that town life is more suited to her. She's not meant to be somewhere quiet. And now we have Ellie too, who gets to see all the *cough* 'joys' of Henford for herself. : P Yeah, there might possibly be consequences later on down the line. We'll see if Kat's pacifism ever bites her in the rear somehow later on.

    I figured that either a) word has spread about Kat because more people hate Annorin now, b) Reynold had told him about it, or possibly c) that Eli had told him about it because I'm sure Oskar probably asked him more in-detail about why everyone hates his dad and I know Eli would be glad to complain about his dad all day long XD Also I feel like a double team of Oskar and Kat would be the simultaneous best and worst. : P
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  • GlacierSnowGlacierSnow Posts: 2,131 Member
    @SnowBnuuy

    I hope the "joys" of Henford don't send Ellie running for the hills!

    Love this story. Keep it up!
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  • SnowBnuuySnowBnuuy Posts: 1,679 Member
    So I got an idea from @haneul and did that '16 personalities' quiz for the current Main Five:

    Oskar - ENTP-A (Debater)
    Reynold - ENFJ-A (Protagonist)
    Kat - ESTP-A (Entrepeneur)
    Aine - ESFP-T (Entertainer)
    Clem - INTJ-T (Architect)
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