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The Sims 4 Vampires that you think can/should be addressed in a patch. Where possible it is advisable to give examples from your gameplay to make it easier for QA to figure out how to address the issues from a coding standpoint.
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I will start with some things I noticed in gameplay:
While it is true that vampires go to a day job fine, they do not handle returning fine. I have two vampires in my current household (Elijah and Rebekah Mikaelson) in the business career path. They get home at 5:00 PM and just stand outside in the sun. The AI should have them get inside as soon as possible not have them standing out there getting their Vampire Energy motive drained.
Proposed Fix: Have vampires enter their home when getting back from work.
One of my vampire's (Kol Mikaelson) unlocked plasma fruit salad and I thought this would be a good way to help them keep their thirst motive in good shape. I had Kol prepare a group meal of plasma fruit salad and when Rebekah was directed to eat it she started acting like she was eating normal sim food (Withered Stomach weakness). Since it is a plasma fruit product, it is supposed to be vampire friendly - it wasn't. Another sim in household (standard sim - human) also tried eating the plasma fruit salad and had a similar reaction. According to the game, plasma fruit salad is not for vampires or human sims. This needs to be fixed.
Speaking of the thirst motive, short of them having plasma packs in their inventory - they don't take care of this need themselves (at home). This household has four vampires (Niklaus, Elijah, Rebekah and Kol Mikaelson) and four humans for them to drink from and they do not do it autonomously. This is a basic sim need and sims are supposed to take care of themselves in such areas.
Possible proposed fixes: Have them autonomously drink from available sims and/or bring back plasma juice as a quick meal in the refrigerator as The Sims 3.
How about this hierarchy? If there is a sim available to drink from, then the vampire autonomously drinks. If there is no available sim to drink from and they know how to make plasma fruit salad (vampire friendly), then they make themselves that autonomously. If they do not know how to make plasma fruit salad, then have some form of plasma juice available in the refrigerator.
How about adding thirst replenishment when the vampire is at work?
It also turns out that vampires do not autonomously use the homemade plasma packs - this should be changed so they use them as they do the ordered version of the plasma packs.
Our vampires also lack the ability to show hospitality to visiting vampires. Caleb drops in from time to time and it would be nice to be able to offer him something to tend his thirst need.
Another thing I noticed was that this game pack did not add to the in-game help files - there is nothing in "Live Mode" regarding vampires.
Fellow simmers, if you have other things to add to this, by all means do so. Let's make this thread a one stop place for the developers to check to see what needs to be addressed in
The Sims 4 Vampires game pack.
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Yes, they will use packs in their inventory, but it requires player intervention to get them there. From the beginning in The Sims (all iterations), Sims have taken care of their own basic needs while the player concentrated on things like aspirations, skills, fulfilling wants, that sort of thing. The Sims 4 continues this except where vampire thirst is concerned.
From what playing I have done I think the developers wisely (in my opinion) borrowed the concept of a vampire's need to feed from Vampire: The Masquerade. If you don't feed the vampire will be driven by need and go into a feeding frenzy. Accordingly a part of the game is to keep your vampire fed. And the game seems to be tweaked in this direction. While I think this is the right direction this means that the player spends a lot of time attending the need to control the thirst. I would like the ability to change the difficulty in dealing with thirst to make it easier or harder to deal with.
Maybe different grades of plasma packs? I don't know what the current level of thirst satisfaction is, but starting from an empty thirst bar I would like a pack to fill it 1/3 to 1/2, but in any event something less than that provided by feeding on Sims.
Also, when you call a vampire during night time hours it says they are sleeping.
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She is also now having regular energy failures.
It's hard to do anything about this because, as a vampire, she has no bar showing me when she would need to sleep.
I can only explain this as still responding like she has human sleep needs without them being visible. I've found about 5 others through Reddit who are currently also experiencing this problem.
Please someone look at this, the energy failures are making the game really unplayable.
This must be a bug, or perhaps plasma binge drinking is a college stunt they picked up and are showing off
That sounds like the animation for nausea. Is she pregnant? Does she have the weak stomach (can't remember the exact name) weakness and eat sim food?
I having this too, with a vampire I created in CAS in a new game.
I had the plasma fruit salad bug where a vampire with the withered stomach got sick and vomited. Even though the plasma fruit salad was of excellent quality. So it had nothing to do with the quality of the plasma fruit salad.
Same with my vampire. She needs to sleep most of the time to be able to vamp around for a few hours.
It appears to be a known bug.
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/910870/dine-out-and-vampire
Same here. It is kind of tiresome as I end up having to take care of human and Vampire needs (she often needs to use the bathroom, eat regular food in addition to drinking plasma and sleep a lot. I am pretty sure it might be a bug as most of my mods won't conflict with that (that majority of mods are clothing, hair, etc....) and I have some other problems when it comes to the dark form. So far she hadn't have a problem with plasma or that salad; but she has different weaknesses and traits though.
Lets make this a reality!
My sim also gets the glitch with the plasma salad AND on top of that, can't seem to dark meditate at all. I can tell her to do it, but the interaction disappears. I do have mods and cc, and I know I have to start going through my cc, but I DID go through my mods and all of them are updated.
Not sure what's causing this, but definitely major problems in my game as I can barely take him out without him dragging from being tired.
I hope this is not changed for turned townie vampires. It would decrease my fun tremendously. But for our own vampires, yes, they probably shouldn't be out somewhere. But I have yet to see one of my other vampires out during the day.
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