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JayandMeekaJayandMeeka Posts: 2,377 Member
So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

Thanks!

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    tinacolada00tinacolada00 Posts: 409 Member
    Honestly. I have a dell and it runs the sims 2,3, and 4 just fine. http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-3668-desktop?ref=108_recs_ttl&c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

    I have the new Inspiron model. I know I spent around 600 because I had to buy a monitor as well.
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    JayandMeekaJayandMeeka Posts: 2,377 Member
    Honestly. I have a dell and it runs the sims 2,3, and 4 just fine. http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-3668-desktop?ref=108_recs_ttl&c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

    I have the new Inspiron model. I know I spent around 600 because I had to buy a monitor as well.

    How much was the monitor, if you don't mind me asking?
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    littlemissgogolittlemissgogo Posts: 1,808 Member
    You'll save a bit if you go the "build your own" route which I did. I had no experience with it whatsoever but did have a "how-to" youtube video and my boyfriend on skype dishing out his own know-how. I'd check out pcpartpicker.com if you decide to go that way.
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    Destin2016Destin2016 Posts: 568 Member
    I have a custom built cyberpower pc. I paid about $1200, including a monitor. That was about about 18 months ago. @chesterbigbird & @phoebebebe13 can really help you out'with this.
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    mmt3363mmt3363 Posts: 385 Member
    How much to spend really just depends on your budget and how recent you want to go with when it comes to components.

    When my fiancé and I decided to save up for our gaming PC, we had in mind 2 things.

    1. Upgradability: we knew that we wanted a computer that we could upgrade easily in the future, so that ruled out laptops and prebuilt PCs for us. It's not that you can't upgrade these types of computers, it's just that your options will be more limited. When purchasing a computer, it's important to keep in mind that in most cases, that computer's hardware has a 5 to 6 year expiration date of sorts. There are simply newer and better graphics cards, motherboards, and so on coming out all the time. Once you get a few generations behind, newer games that come out will lag out for you big time. It's unavoidable.

    So, you have to decide the route you want to take. Do you want to prospectively replace your computer again within the next 10 years or would you rather be able to upgrade and replace parts as you want, need and can afford them?

    2. Quality: not all computers are created equal. The "Great for Gaming" advertisements are sometimes not what they seem, so do your research. Read reviews. Read about the different components available for gaming PCs and try to make a selection that caters to your life. Example: Do you take a lot of screenshots, play other PC games outside of the sims, or store a lot of music and media files on your computer? Then you're probably going to want to look into a computer that has a lot of hard drive space so that you won't run out of room anytime soon.

    Is it important for your computer to have a disk drive, or do you mostly download digital copies of all of your content rather than hard copies?

    Do you want to be able to run The Sims and other games on ultra graphics settings? Then you will probably want to invest most in a top of line graphics card.

    For our PC, we went with CyberPower. We custom built the computer on their site, hand picked every component in and on it, they assembled the computer and shipped it right to our door with detailed instructions about what cords to plug where. It was seamless and foolproof, and I have literally never been happier with a PC in my life. We paid $2,500 for our set up, but we also got a lot of extras. You don't have to spend as much as we did in order to get a great computer. They have a lot of options for every kind of budget, and I can't recommend them highly enough.

    Along the same vein, I would encourage you to avoid Alienware. Before getting our desktop, both my fiancé and I had Alienware gaming laptops. His lasted only 5 years before it began having such severe overheating issues that the computer would shut down 5 minutes into running any game. Mine had to have the motherboard replaced twice in 5 years, only to die a third time right before we got the new PC. I don't know what happened to the quality of their computers, but our experience doesn't seem to be all that uncommon if you look at reviews.

    Good luck on finding the computer that's right for you! Happy Simming!
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    artistichippie2009artistichippie2009 Posts: 115 Member
    Honestly it deppends. My husband works in IT so he built me a pretty good gaming Rig. It was under 400$ if I recall correctly. If your buying one outright though I would guesstimate around $600 or so.
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    KartaiKartai Posts: 1,206 Member
    I just order CyberpowerPC it's a 16GB it had great to good reviews on bestbuy and I got it from amazon I had a amazon gift card to cut it down
    the total was $668.70 with the help of the gift card this new PC will replace my 12GB not my 32GB.

    And it has red color fans <3 my 32GB has the blue color fans ;)

    This 12GB I have is a Asus I'll keep it for a backup if I need to.

    I myself just looked around bestbuy, amazon, newegg and just priced them look for gaming desktop or pc and it should show you the prices
    and it depends how much you can spend for a new desktop or if you're lucky enough you can have someone built one for you.

    but good luck on finding the right desktop for you.


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    catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the crap out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.
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    JayandMeekaJayandMeeka Posts: 2,377 Member
    Ok, cool. Thanks everyone! I would love to go down the route of building my own but I have next to zero knowledge of how to do so and no one in my life that does with enough confidence for me to go that route.
    So I will see. I want to definitely keep it under $1000 CDN. But even that is pushing it.
    And there is a potential of me moving residences soon so I will hold off on a purchase until I know for sure that I'm moving into a new permanent place!

    Ugh now I'm dreaming of a beautiful giant monitor with stunning graphics!
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    icmnfrshicmnfrsh Posts: 18,789 Member
    I think $1000 CDN is doable. If you're getting new parts, you might as well get a 10-series NVIDIA graphics card. At least a GTX 1050 Ti or 1060 should be good. And an i5 from the latest generation, either 6th or 7th. Maybe 16 GB of RAM to be safe. And possibly an SSD so that it boots up quick, along with a regular hard drive with at least 1 TB of space for games.

    There are also other things like the case, motherboard, power supply, etc., but those don't really affect the performance as much, so you can just look for something that fits. You'll just have to keep in mind that the case has to be big enough for the graphics card, and the power supply should have enough watts to power up the entire rig.

    I really think buying a prebuilt PC is a raw deal, but you might find something with these specs.
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    icmnfrshicmnfrsh Posts: 18,789 Member
    Oh, and if you want a new monitor, I guess that also factors into the budget. Some good ones cost 100+ dollars, but I don't know if you can get good cheap ones.

    Here's something that's a bit above the budget, but it does look promising: https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01MT0781S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1502072240&sr=8-7&keywords=gaming+pc

    8 GB of RAM is fine for most things these days IMO. 16 GB is more of future-proofing. You can upgrade the RAM at a later point when you need it, if you feel like doing so.
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    JayandMeekaJayandMeeka Posts: 2,377 Member
    icmnfrsh wrote: »
    Oh, and if you want a new monitor, I guess that also factors into the budget. Some good ones cost 100+ dollars, but I don't know if you can get good cheap ones.

    Here's something that's a bit above the budget, but it does look promising: https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A2-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B01MT0781S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1502072240&sr=8-7&keywords=gaming+pc

    8 GB of RAM is fine for most things these days IMO. 16 GB is more of future-proofing. You can upgrade the RAM at a later point when you need it, if you feel like doing so.

    Oh wow. Ok great, thank you! It's nice to have a direction to look in. Just taking a look at the monitors there they run between 200-500 so I'll have to take a look at those as well. So all in that would be about 1600.

    And like @mmt3363 mentioned - I want something that I can just replace parts with. Longevity would be awesome. And cheaper. It's sort of like a long term investment. If I spend a good chunk now for something that I'll get 10 or more years out of I'll be happy.
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    icmnfrshicmnfrsh Posts: 18,789 Member
    Well, as long as it's a desktop PC, you can always swap out parts as long as they're compatible with one another. This usually just means things like the motherboard having the right socket for a CPU, having the correct RAM type, and whatnot.
    Don't manhandle the urchin. He's not for sale. FIND YOUR OWN! - Xenon the Antiquarian, Dragon Age II

    Race Against the Clock: Can your elder sim turn back the clock before their time runs out?
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    phantom121294phantom121294 Posts: 151 Member
    edited August 2017
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    Ok, cool. Thanks everyone! I would love to go down the route of building my own but I have next to zero knowledge of how to do so and no one in my life that does with enough confidence for me to go that route.
    So I will see. I want to definitely keep it under $1000 CDN. But even that is pushing it.
    And there is a potential of me moving residences soon so I will hold off on a purchase until I know for sure that I'm moving into a new permanent place!

    Ugh now I'm dreaming of a beautiful giant monitor with stunning graphics!

    Its a very easy process. The computer in my signature was my first and current build. Putting together the PC itself took maybe 1-2 hours. Putting the water cooling took......well....much longer. Its an experience I wish every gamer could have. The first time I started up my loop is something ill never forget.

    Linus tech tips has great videos on youtube of how to put together a pc. Its really just putting the CPU and ram into the motherboard. Mounting the motherboard in the case. Attaching the video cards. Then hooking up everything to the power supply. Mount the hard drives and attach them to the motherboard and you are basically done building it.

    There is also tons of support here and on the internet full of people who have built and would love to help others build.
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    catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Forget to leave out the price - it cost 2K
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    DeKayDeKay Posts: 81,602 Member
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Forget to leave out the price - it cost 2K

    Alienware is overpriced. Along with Razer. There are other brands that use the same specs and are just as good and are cheaper.
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    LizzychicagoLizzychicago Posts: 873 Member
    For my next computer, I'm making my own. My son is doing that right now and not only will it cost half the price of a really good computer, you can do it in stages if you don't have that money up front and you completely control what goes into it, no bloat content, the right video card and all that other computer gobbeldy 🐸🐸🐸🐸. lol
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    fluffykinsfluffykins Posts: 37 Member
    I get all of my computer stuff from newegg.com. I got this model -> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230137
    I replaced the video card and maxed the ram and I run the sims at close to max specs. The first thing I would tell you is that laptops are not ideal for gaming, you are much better off with a desktop. Second, do NOT pay much more than $1000 for a computer, its a massive waste of money unless you are doing some heavy stuff (like programming) with it. I bought my desktop for about $540 added with the video card (geforce GTX 1050Ti) I spent less than $1000.
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    MarktnMarktn Posts: 554 Member
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Yep, I have the Alienware 18 laptop. It is a gaming horse It was way expensive, but I'd only had really mediocre laptops before.
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    mintycupcakemintycupcake Posts: 13,212 Member
    Order on-line and search "coupon code" for the company you are purchasing from. I did this when I got my last laptop through HP and I was able to save a couple hundred dollars this way. This is honestly a good habit to get into for all on-line orders.
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    catmando830catmando830 Posts: 9,117 Member
    DeKay wrote: »
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Forget to leave out the price - it cost 2K

    Alienware is overpriced. Along with Razer. There are other brands that use the same specs and are just as good and are cheaper.

    Maybe, but they don't have the cool Alien head on the cover (laptop version), or the cool colors.
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    DeKayDeKay Posts: 81,602 Member
    edited August 2017
    DeKay wrote: »
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Forget to leave out the price - it cost 2K

    Alienware is overpriced. Along with Razer. There are other brands that use the same specs and are just as good and are cheaper.

    Maybe, but they don't have the cool Alien head on the cover (laptop version), or the cool colors.

    Bahaha, seriously?? You're kinda paying at least $500 more just for the alien logo and lights. :D Well, I use a custom laptop brand (Aftershock) and they provide painting custom skins for your laptop which is even more dope in my opinion cuz it can be any design you want, even one you design on your own. :sunglasses: And you only have to pay about $100 more (depending on the design).

    Here are some examples:

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    Ravager619Ravager619 Posts: 3,738 Member
    Destin2016 wrote: »
    I have a custom built cyberpower pc. I paid about $1200, including a monitor. That was about about 18 months ago. @chesterbigbird & @phoebebebe13 can really help you out'with this.

    Both @chesterbigbird and @phoebebebe13 were a big help when I built my gaming rig nearly two years ago. I took advantage of some Christmas sales and spent about $1050. I later spent another $325 to swap out the GTX960 for a GTX980 so I could run Project CARS on ultra graphics including rain and fog conditions. The rig is still going strong, and when Project CARS 2 comes out in about seven weeks I may not need to do any upgrades for it.

    When I did my build, I decided not to get SSD to save money. I don't have a problem with TS4 taking 30 seconds or so to load my game. To me, it wasn't worth it to spend a few hundred dollars to save a few seconds of my time.
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    phoebebebe13phoebebebe13 Posts: 19,400 Member
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    Ok, cool. Thanks everyone! I would love to go down the route of building my own but I have next to zero knowledge of how to do so and no one in my life that does with enough confidence for me to go that route.
    So I will see. I want to definitely keep it under $1000 CDN. But even that is pushing it.
    And there is a potential of me moving residences soon so I will hold off on a purchase until I know for sure that I'm moving into a new permanent place!

    Ugh now I'm dreaming of a beautiful giant monitor with stunning graphics!

    In Canada computers are allot more expensive. Under $1000 might be a low budget. Speak to @chesterbigbird
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    phoebebebe13phoebebebe13 Posts: 19,400 Member
    edited August 2017
    DeKay wrote: »
    KatyJay88 wrote: »
    So I'm finding that both sims 3 and 4 are lagging severely, and I'm thinking it's my laptop. It's an old Toshiba satellite laptop with qaud core AMD radeon graphics card.

    I'm beginning to think about getting a PC. So where should I start my research? What is the most I should spend on a gaming PC? I know there are many discussions on what specs I should be looking at so I don't want to go into that in great detail.. I'm more looking at price. Although if you have suggestions on specs I'm open to that too!

    Thanks!

    I have a Dell Alienware laptop (3 years old) and we just upgraded the video drivers (didn't have to, it was free from Dell) and I have a SSD and am running TS4 with NO problems. To get into the specifics I'd have to ask my VP IT hubby and it annoys the plum out of him. I know I have the best of the best cause he wants to keep mama happy in her gaming.

    Forget to leave out the price - it cost 2K

    Alienware is overpriced. Along with Razer. There are other brands that use the same specs and are just as good and are cheaper.

    Maybe, but they don't have the cool Alien head on the cover (laptop version), or the cool colors.

    Just so you know Dell bought Aleniware from its original creators. The quality is not the same as the original computers. Your paying for a name only, nothing more. As I understand the original creators now make Clevo. Anytime you buy a computer off the shelf (Dell Alienware would be one example) you get generic hardware. You buy custom and you will get certified hardware. Certified hardware is always better

    Buying an overpriced dell laptop to get stickers? What has this world come to.
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