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Leaderboard Battle
simgirl1010
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Has anyone else noticed the leaderboard? In the larger scheme of things it's not at all a big deal but I was just curious because it seems that individuals are actively searching out members and liking their posts to elevate them on the leaderboard. The leaderboard resets on Sunday night and there is no way in the normal course of postings that members could have that many points in one day. Who actually has the time to do that? And why? Is their some kind of award or reward for being on top? It would be interesting to see what the board actually looks like without any deliberate manipulations.
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Either way, its not really a competition. It doesn't affect anything, doesn't do anything. For those that are on it, good job. for those of us who are not ... good job.
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
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Well it is not that pointless if people are giving points!
I wish the points could be useful for something else though. Maybe to use at the TS3 Store or maybe discount on Origin?
Everytime someone checks like, awesome, or insightful on a post that post/commenter gets a point. And that's why I said there's definitely some manipulations going on because shortly after the leaderboard resets you have people on the board with hundreds of points. I was just wondering who would take the time to systematically search out particular posters and advance them on the leaderboard. What's the point? No pun intended.
ETA: Just saw a comment on the forum that might explain why the leaderboard may be of interest to some. It determines the relevance and popularity of a particular version depending on which version's players are at the top of the leaderboard.
It was a thing a couple of years ago that all of the 'high scorers' where people who criticised The Sims 4 and usually the posts which appeal to the most players are going to get more likes.
A lot of this weeks members are actually players who post in the same threads as me but mostly in the TS3 GD and they very rarely if ever post outside of there. It is not unknown that the busiest thread on the forums in number of pages is the 'what happened in your game today?' and that thread does go through a lot of pages quite often. Sometimes we joke that it is easy to miss a page. I once missed two page while I was asleep for eight hours there would be another two pages lol Most of the thread is made up of a lot of pictures, a few stories going on as well as some modelling and some builds so those most active will get a lot of points.
I do know there was a phase in the past where some trolls where giving each other likes and then bragging about it and they pretty much gave themselves away as the so called 'lol trolls' which is why our lol button got removed. We lost our disagree button because that got abused as well. I do think that likes should be removed as yesterday someone was saying that 'people agree with them more because more people liked their comment more than people liked mine' I don't know if you are referencing that though. I did joke about having more likes than them in total but really the amount of likes don't really do much anyway except add a number to your profile. As I said I would much rather see likes get put to more use but if it is only going to be abused then I guess that would be 'pointless' as well
I can pretty much tell you that's not the case in the bolded part as I have see people who had joined the old TS3 site years ago who had just now come to visit this website for the very 1st time. Some of these "New" visitors have a joined date from 2009. So if you go and add up the points from the Anniversary badges as they give out 5 points for each year that you have been a member of this forum. So take for the fact that TS3 is going on 8 years now, that would give the "New" old member 40 points. So that 40 points is what puts that user on the top of the leaderboard list without them ever making comments on this site and getting points from people hitting Like, Awesome or Insightful.
Okay, so given the fact that someone "New" from the old TS3 site comes here that not only have racked up several of the Anniversary badges, but also may had made several comments on the old site which then in turn adds to the Anniversary badge points. Plus they may had already done what is required to obtain the Misc. badges such as the "Name Dropper" badge, the "Combo Breaker" badge or the "Photogenic" badge. All of those points from those badges gets added to the Anniversary/Comments badges.
So I guess what I'm saying it that, No, no one is just going around and hitting Insightful, Like or Awesome on someone's comments right after the leaderboard resets on Sunday evening because some of the names that do pop up on the leaderboard are members that really no one has ever heard a word from. But those members who are up in the top spots just because their badge points add up to an amount of points that puts them in the top 1-3/4 spots don't last too long since most of the time, they don't make comments and then they get knocked down by members such as Rosemow, Luthienrising and despina51 because they are always helping New Members or the older ones with issues that they may be having with their game. On top of Rose helping in that department, she is also commenting in the "New Member/Member" thread as well as the "Come and Introduce yourself" thread as well as posting her welcome greeting on New Members walls.
Then you have King_of_SimCity7, CravenLestat, Charlottesmom, Lanlyn that makes the leaderboard just about every week for all of the awesome posts/threads that they make. I myself have been on the leaderboard a couple of times in the past as well as being in the #1 spot. That too was short lived because my points that had put me up there was due to 2 new badges that I just received as well as points from the likes, etc that I was getting. I was probably up there for a day and a half until SimGuruDrake had passed me in points because she was getting more likes, awesomes and insightfuls than I was. Heck, I'm back on the leaderboard this week (rare occasion for me) even though I am in the 10th spot but I have been posting a lot of posts in the "What Happened in your game today?" thread over in the TS3 GD section.
This are the badges and the points that the "New Members" from the old TS3 site (2009-2014 before this site was up) would end up getting without having to get points for Insightful, Like or Awesome.
Badge points for "Comments"
1st Comment = 2 points
10 Comments = 5 points
100 Comments = 10 points
500 Comments = 15 points
1000 Comments = 20 points
2500 Comments = 20 points
5000 Comments = 20 points
10000 Comments = 20 points
25000 Comments = 20 points
50000 Comments = 20 points
Badges for The Sims Anniversary
1st Year = 5 points
2nd Year = 5 points
3rd Year = 5 points
4th Year = 5 points
5th Year = 5 points
6th Year = 5 points
7th Year = 5 points
8th Year = 5 points
9th Year = 5 points
10th Year = 5 points
Ancient Membership = 5 points
The Miscellaneous Badges
Combo Breaker = 5 points
Name Dropper = 5 points
Photogenic = 10 points
I myself am also on the wall about points and the leaderboard. Granted that the points really don't do much other than secure "New members" on becoming full members as well as letting other members know who posts the most to get a high score. In the beginning before the EA moderators had this "New Member" points system in place, yes I did refer to the points as a popularity contest and I guess it still is in a way. But in a way, it's a good thing as "New Members" can also see who they can turn to if they ever need any help with their game.
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I'll put it this way: Imagine you're an average simmer doing a search about something to do with the sims. What are the odds you come across a post for one of these people who have thousands and thousands of posts? Definitely higher than the ones who only have a k or two. And if most of those posts are helpful, guiding posts, that means a good chance it's going to be a post that the person wants to react to in a positive manner. But maybe they see the thread is outdated and they don't want to be the person who necros an old thread, so they drop a like, insightful, or awesome and move on.
Now imagine thousands of simmers doing that on a regular basis.
There is also the "fan factor." People who are more inclined to like a particular person's posts because they like what they say and do in general.
Not everyone knows everyone who makes the leader board it depends on who posts in what area. Most of this weeks leaders are TS3 players in the thread in the TS3 GD which as I said, is very active so those who post in it often will get a few points. Picture sharing is popular and players do give likes or awesomes if something looks good. Replying to others is a good move as well. I always try to reply to anyone who posts as it keeps the thread active and it is nicer having people actually talk about other players content in a positive way. Some Simmers now actually know the names of other players Sims almost as much as we know some of the premades lol
A while back it was usually the 'critics' who got a lot of points because they usually said what a lot of players where thinking. Not everyone agreed with them of course but a lot of players did which explains why some players always made the top spot. I once was top for a week but I cannot remember what I did to make it that high. Some of the trolls I was having problems with hated it though and sadly some trolls have come to player's walls to harass them over how many points they had. It is a shame really as of all the things people fall out over on here some people complained about a point system?
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Leaderboard Monday morning around 8:30 AM, 2 hours later.
I just noticed that when I was over on the page that they now have badges for Answers and one other one called 5+1's that gives out 5 points but no one has that one yet as that badge hasn't been enabled yet and neither has the Answers one even though SimGuruDrake is the only one that has earned that badge. SGDrake was working on that badge last year but know why she hasn't enabled it yet or if she ever will.
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/badges
Badge points for "lol"
5 lol = 5 points
25 lol = 5 points
100 lol = 10 points
250 lol = 25 points
500 lol = 50 points
Note about the lol points
Unlike "likes' that give 1 point for every like you receive, lol's will only gather points in the form of badges as shown above
Badge points for "Like"
5 Likes = 5 points
25 Likes = 5 points
100 Likes = 10 points
250 Likes = 25 points
500 Likes = 50 points
Awesome
5 = 5 points
25 = 5 points
100 = 10 points
250 = 25 points
500 = 50 points
This is so true as I have seen names on that list that I have never even heard of. When I see someone on there that I've never seen a post from, I go and check out their page only to find out that they do most if not all of their posting over in the TS4 sections which would then explain why I don't know them.
We have on this weeks leaderboard so far that do post over in the thread in the TS3 GD section that you've mention and most of them are pretty much on there week after week because of all of the awesome posts that they make and not just in that thread but in other threads that they either create themselves or in someone else's thread...
I agree about the picture sharing threads and posts as it would seem like to me that the poster gets more Likes or Awesomes for their photos. Of course I have seen some people getting a lot of Likes/Awesomes for just their opinion posts but I still think the picture sharing posts generate more Likes and Awesome in my opinion...
@Triplis, So true. If I was a New member and needed help, I think that I would want to get it from someone who has the higher posts/points count as that to me would mean that they are very acknowledge and would be of more help to me than someone who's post count is very low. And no I'm not trying to say that someone who has a very low post/point count doesn't know anything about the game and how to fix whatever issue that I may have or anyone else may have because for 1) I don't know how long that player has been playing the Sims and 2) if the player is someone that has already been on the older forums using a different name but chose to change it up when coming to this new site. So yeah, I think that I would be more inclined to ask for help from someone that has the higher count unless if the New Member states that they were a long time member of the old TS2 or TS3 forums and just decided that I was time to change their user name for whatever reason.
Oh yeah, you would be surprised at how many of the older threads that get a Like, Insightful or Awesome that was from years ago and some of them are from the older site. I've seen posts of my getting a Like/Awesome/Insightful that was from3-4 years ago on a thread that hasn't had any activity whatsoever in ages. Sometimes someone may make a comment in that older thread just to thank the people who have been very
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Sadly I do remember the certain profile pictures from the early days and the reasons why the moderation had to be changed for new members. It is a shame to see new members leave comments on the activity area wondering why they cannot post when they might have an urgent question to ask. As usual thanks to the small few everyone else has to suffer
One good thing is that we don't have much trolling now these days apart from the occasional spam bot that gets through
Exactly...
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The forums are better without trolls
Although, I think it would be fun to see them remove the names and replace them with all the Guru's names. Now that would be fun to see how they would be! Would they be more active here in the forums, racing to post more than the other? Seeing who would be at the top?
(I wouldn't recommend this, as we need them Guru's working on the game instead) but it could give us a clue as to why they even have this thing called "Leader Board"
I think I have seen one or two Gurus on it before. I saw Drake on the top once even though she had been attacked that week
The thing is leader boards are more associated with competitive games. The Sims is not a competitive game so there is no need for a leader board, even though the forums do feel competitive at times
Oh, they do make it on the Leader boards at times
I couldn't help but crack up when you said the forums do feel competitive at times.......oh so true
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