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  • Briana2425Briana2425 Posts: 3,591 Member
    Movotti wrote: »
    Triplis wrote: »
    So I think we need a stage that's set in the range of about 12-14 to cover younger teen behaviors. This stage could cover the puberty-related tropes, for instance.
    Thats a bit awkward, since there are plenty of girls who enter puberty at 8-9, and others who don't get there until 15-16

    And I know some who don't get until 20 something but the most common age range is from 10-14 same with the boys how their voice changes I heard boys voice change only when I was in middle school as a preteen or pre teenager they should add that in game for preteen males how their voice changes.
  • TriplisTriplis Posts: 3,048 Member
    Movotti wrote: »
    Triplis wrote: »
    So I think we need a stage that's set in the range of about 12-14 to cover younger teen behaviors. This stage could cover the puberty-related tropes, for instance.
    Thats a bit awkward, since there are plenty of girls who enter puberty at 8-9, and others who don't get there until 15-16
    Isn't it understood that the life stages are kinda going based off of averages though? Plus it's not like they'd have an actual number in the game.
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  • DragonCat159DragonCat159 Posts: 1,896 Member
    DcD2510 wrote: »
    I think Young Child should be in the game, aged 4 to 8 years old.

    Then will have to have young baby, young toddler, pre-teen, post teen, young adult, adult, old adult, young edler.... ect. How about we just stick to 3 choices of size prets and that would be ok, ok? :D
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  • TayTayGeeTayTayGee Posts: 313 Member
    As adults in real life are preteens so noticeable and distinguishable? I know I've got a eleven/twelve year old niece and as a twenty year old I think she still looks and acts like a child. Granted she is smart and back-talks and everything, but still doesnt seem like a pre-teen. While teenagers seem like teenagers and children seem like children. Pre-teens are always either so close to being a child or pre-teen that it really makes it hard to tell. Also, what age is even suppossed to be pre-teen because even in the same state in the same country people will have a different opinion on that just like whether or not soda is soda, pop, or soda pop, and their are even some areas where people call everything either cola or coke even when it's pepsi or something like that. So I feel like just having pre-teens looked over is okay for this game.

    Your niece isn't mentality/physically mature yet. My sister is is 21 but she still look like a 13 or 14 year old. When I was a pre-teen, I hit puberty early do I developed quickly. I had the body of a of a younger teenager and already over 5'0 despite being a 9 or 10 years old. We all hit puberty at different times. Your niece is fine when she still looking like a child. She was lucky. Me, on the other hand, I barely looked like a child.
  • Clk1143Clk1143 Posts: 1,014 Member
    TayTayGee wrote: »
    MasonGamer wrote: »
    I don't know it seems kind of blended once your toddler masters all the basic skills, he/she is essentially a child.

    I think preteen is a must because the age gap is huge.
    Clk1143 wrote: »
    Briana2425 wrote: »
    Clk1143 wrote: »
    I honestly don't get what would make preteen so different from a child. Pre-teens are before they are teenagers, basically a kid which we already have. I feel like it would just add one more lifestate with very little content and then we would get even less content for our actual kids and teens. Now if someone wants to add more stuff to teens and kids I would be all for that.

    Preteens in my opinion are different from being kids because their not in elementary school anymore and their not teens because their to young to go to highschool but they attend middle school (intermediate school).

    Preteens can be like the teens we had in Sims 2 get acne, sneak out. Just like in Sims 3 preteens will have moodswings and pull pranks.
    In the know of anything popular mainly music have a crush on someone and/or a pop sensation or be inspired by a pop sensation. Still play voidcritters with the kids because their still some kid left in them. They can either be an angel or a rebel.

    Well that's kind of my point you said "preteens can be like teens we had in sims 2" why can't we simply beef up the teens in sims 4 instead of adding another lifestate and then not giving those things to teens? Everything you said I think of for teenagers not pre-teens. Pre-teens are very much little kids still, kind of like the kids we have in sims 4.

    Oh no, pre-teens are not little kids. There is absolute a huge difference between a pre-teen and a little kid. Do you have any idea what a real pre-teen is like? A little kid is like a under 10. A pre-teen is 10-12. I don't who would refer a 11 or 12 year old as a "little kid" . Adults should never refer an older child as a "little kid" because they are not (unless referring to physical size). Preadolescence, pubescent, or just kid is more of likely words for children ages 11-12.

    I have kids as well as nephews and nieces so yes I know what a pre-teen is, I just see no need for it in the sims 4 lol. Pre-teens still do a lot of stuff that younger kids do. For me in sims 4 the kids are already close enough to pre-teen that it's unnecessary to add yet another lifestate in there. I would rather give the kids and teens that we already have stuff then not give it to them.
  • TayTayGeeTayTayGee Posts: 313 Member
    Clk1143 wrote: »
    TayTayGee wrote: »
    MasonGamer wrote: »
    I don't know it seems kind of blended once your toddler masters all the basic skills, he/she is essentially a child.

    I think preteen is a must because the age gap is huge.
    Clk1143 wrote: »
    Briana2425 wrote: »
    Clk1143 wrote: »
    I honestly don't get what would make preteen so different from a child. Pre-teens are before they are teenagers, basically a kid which we already have. I feel like it would just add one more lifestate with very little content and then we would get even less content for our actual kids and teens. Now if someone wants to add more stuff to teens and kids I would be all for that.

    Preteens in my opinion are different from being kids because their not in elementary school anymore and their not teens because their to young to go to highschool but they attend middle school (intermediate school).

    Preteens can be like the teens we had in Sims 2 get acne, sneak out. Just like in Sims 3 preteens will have moodswings and pull pranks.
    In the know of anything popular mainly music have a crush on someone and/or a pop sensation or be inspired by a pop sensation. Still play voidcritters with the kids because their still some kid left in them. They can either be an angel or a rebel.

    Well that's kind of my point you said "preteens can be like teens we had in sims 2" why can't we simply beef up the teens in sims 4 instead of adding another lifestate and then not giving those things to teens? Everything you said I think of for teenagers not pre-teens. Pre-teens are very much little kids still, kind of like the kids we have in sims 4.

    Oh no, pre-teens are not little kids. There is absolute a huge difference between a pre-teen and a little kid. Do you have any idea what a real pre-teen is like? A little kid is like a under 10. A pre-teen is 10-12. I don't who would refer a 11 or 12 year old as a "little kid" . Adults should never refer an older child as a "little kid" because they are not (unless referring to physical size). Preadolescence, pubescent, or just kid is more of likely words for children ages 11-12.

    I have kids as well as nephews and nieces so yes I know what a pre-teen is, I just see no need for it in the sims 4 lol. Pre-teens still do a lot of stuff that younger kids do. For me in sims 4 the kids are already close enough to pre-teen that it's unnecessary to add yet another lifestate in there. I would rather give the kids and teens that we already have stuff then not give it to them.

    I see what you are saying. Not every pre-teen is childish. I knew a 13 year old boy with the mentality of a 8 year old (so weird). He wasn't physically mature either. I knew this other 13 year old boy who was physically mature and didn't act like a 8 year old. Everyone is different. Sometimes maturity or childishness doesn't have anything to do with age.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    BUMP!!!! I SUPPORT!!!
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    I want preteens and a young child life stage
  • Mariefoxprice83Mariefoxprice83 Posts: 8,108 Member
    I just want the teens already in game to be a bit more specialised and perhaps find a way for them to look younger because there is a big jump from about 8 to 17.
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  • DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    We have baby and child, then they gave us toddlers for free and now you want to add pre-child? Don't want them, don't need them.
  • VeronicaHerndonVeronicaHerndon Posts: 63 Member
    I don't think we need preteens. They should focus on making teenagers look more like teenagers buy making them shorter have acne and teenage facial structure. Also add more teen clothes and fun things for them to do.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    I think a young child would be a great idea as well as preteens! Adds more depth into aging and makes it realistic. Who jumps from a small toddler to a fully grown child? As toddlers appear to be 2-4yrs old and children 8-9yrs old, the young child life stage is 5-7yrs old. Preteen life stage is 11-14yrs (late childhood to early teens) old since teen is 16-19yrs (mid to late teens).
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    Young Child (5-7yrs)

    A young child is a child who is grown out of toddlerhood and entering childhood. However, they are slightly younger than a child. Young children are very young prepubescent children. Unlike a child, they are nowhere near the preadolescent/preteen years. Just like a child, they have genderless/androgynous bodies that aren't developed. A young child are in the earlyish part of childhood. Young children are early school aged children (K-2nd grade).

    A young child is taller than a toddler and slightly shorter than a child. Their limbs are longer than a toddler. Unlike a toddler, a young child has a less pudgy body. Young children are similarly proportioned to children.

    Young Child Body:

    -Rectangular shaped (straight waist, no visible hips)
    -Flat chest
    -Longish limbs
    -Small hands and feet
    -Short stature, petite

    Young Children should reach to an adult's elbow.

    Young children can do what children do. They should also interact with toddlers and be carried on the hip/waist of an adult.
  • NeiaNeia Posts: 4,190 Member
    I think a young teen/preteen/middle-schooler/10-14 yo is what I miss the most at the moment. A young child/3-6yo could be interesting too, but I think with the toddlers being a bit more old than in previous iterations, it's a bit less needed than the young teens.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    Neia wrote: »
    I think a young teen/preteen/middle-schooler/10-14 yo is what I miss the most at the moment. A young child/3-6yo could be interesting too, but I think with the toddlers being a bit more old than in previous iterations, it's a bit less needed than the young teens.

    I wonder if their actually going to add YC and TY//PT/MS in the game. I think they should. Why? This a whole new game with new things added like multitasking and body sculpting. If Maxis could add that, then they could add some new life stages. Nobody wants to give Maxis a chance to add new life stages because of how "redundant" they sound. I'd go ahead and give Maxis my blessing to add it.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    Young Children go to elementary school and do homework in a notebook, same as children.
  • DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    There will be no other life stages in this game. They made teens the size of YAs and Adults because it was easier, used less new programing and they could shear clothes. They added toddlers because they were going to be in the base game but were not ready at release. Asking for new life stages is futile because it isn't going to happen. I know a lot of people think it would be easy but it's not. Look how long it took toddlers to be added. Just because you want it and think it would be easy does not make it so.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    Dannydanbo wrote: »
    There will be no other life stages in this game. They made teens the size of YAs and Adults because it was easier, used less new programing and they could shear clothes. They added toddlers because they were going to be in the base game but were not ready at release. Asking for new life stages is futile because it isn't going to happen. I know a lot of people think it would be easy but it's not. Look how long it took toddlers to be added. Just because you want it and think it would be easy does not make it so.

    And how do you know that? Never assume things.
  • DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    KlumsyKate wrote: »
    Dannydanbo wrote: »
    There will be no other life stages in this game. They made teens the size of YAs and Adults because it was easier, used less new programing and they could shear clothes. They added toddlers because they were going to be in the base game but were not ready at release. Asking for new life stages is futile because it isn't going to happen. I know a lot of people think it would be easy but it's not. Look how long it took toddlers to be added. Just because you want it and think it would be easy does not make it so.

    And how do you know that? Never assume things.

    I'm not assuming anything. Look at the evidence. Teens as big as YAs. Toddlers older than before to fill the gap from baby to child. They can't even get sims to lounge by the pool, so why would you think they would add a group of new life stages to the game when no one appreciates the ones we already have.
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    YOUNG CHILD LIFE STAGE

    -No longer a toddler, grown out of toddlerhood, beginning childhood
    -Very young prepubescent children, unlike a child, nowhere near the preadolescent/preteen years
    -Babyfaced, towering or very tall (should tower over toddlers) body, slightly shorter than children, a young child are literally a foot taller than a toddler, a toddler should be 2-3 inches below a young child's shoulder
    -Five to seven inches shorter than children
    -Represents 5-8 year olds/Kindergarten-2nd grade students
    -Can be carried on hip/waist like a toddler by either an a preteen, teen, adult, or elder (light enough to be carried)
    -When carrying a young child, they don't need to be carried with two arms, only one. They wrap their arms around a person's neck
    -Young children can share similar or same animation as children.
    -Attend elementary school
    -Can annoy older siblings
    -Can interact with toddlers the same way a child does


    PRETEENS
    -No longer a child, grown out of childhood but not yet a teen
    -Youthful face, mature body
    -Considered as pubescent, preadolescent
    -Puberty arrives, some girl might develop a slightly curvier shape, some might have a flat chest, small, or fuller, larger, developed protruding breasts, some boys might have skinny frame or a body with muscles, a high or deep voice, facial hair above lip or on chin
    -Can customize body in cas and have muscle slider
    -Can have a few mature clothing (belly shirts, kitten heels)
    -Few inches (3-4in) shorter than adults
    -Represents 11-14 year olds/6th-9th (freshman) graders
    -Goes to middle school
    -Share most animations with adults (accept for woohoo)
    -Can have crushes, can flirt, can kiss (on cheek or lips), can give gifts
    -Can have crushes on older sims
    -Can care for toddlers and young children
    -Can make fun of children
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    @SimGuruDrake @SimGuruKimmi @SimGuruGraham Please the preteen and young child life stage in family game pacK!!!!
  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    KlumsyKate wrote: »
    YOUNG CHILD LIFE STAGE

    -No longer a toddler, grown out of toddlerhood, beginning childhood
    -Very young prepubescent children, unlike a child, nowhere near the preadolescent/preteen years
    -Babyfaced, towering or very tall (should tower over toddlers) body, slightly shorter than children, a young child are literally a foot taller than a toddler, a toddler should be 2-3 inches below a young child's shoulder
    -Five to seven inches shorter than children
    -Nearly reaching to an adult's elbow
    -Represents 5-8 year olds/Kindergarten-2nd grade students
    -Can be carried on hip/waist like a toddler by either an a preteen, teen, adult, or elder (light enough to be carried)
    -When carrying a young child, they don't need to be carried with two arms, only one. They wrap their arms around a person's neck
    -Young children can share similar or same animation as children.
    -Attend elementary school
    -Can annoy older siblings
    -Can interact with toddlers the same way a child does


    PRETEENS
    -No longer a child, grown out of childhood but not yet a teen
    -Youthful face, mature body
    -Considered as pubescent, preadolescent
    -Puberty arrives, some girl might develop a slightly curvier shape, some might have a flat chest, small, or fuller, larger, developed protruding breasts, some boys might have skinny frame or a body with muscles, a high or deep voice, facial hair above lip or on chin
    -Can customize body in cas and have muscle slider
    -Can have a few mature clothing (belly shirts, kitten heels)
    -Few inches (3-4in) shorter than adults
    -Represents 11-14 year olds/6th-9th (freshman) graders
    -Goes to middle school
    -Share most animations with adults (accept for woohoo)
    -Can have crushes, can flirt, can kiss (on cheek or lips), can give gifts
    -Can have crushes on older sims
    -Can care for toddlers and young children
    -Can make fun of children

  • KlumsyKateKlumsyKate Posts: 451 Member
    These are my ideas for the ages so far. I'll add more as I think them up.

    Young Children are Sims that are between toddler and children. As such, they have freedoms of the latter but some limitations of the former. Their age makes them unable to be left alone at home or at lots, like toddlers, but they can also sleep in a bed as opposed to a crib, Preteens and up can give them piggy back rides around the house, they can interact with objects and interact with others, play video games, walk up and down stairs, and can go to preschool for a couple hours as long as a parent takes them. They can also lose teeth, which they place under their pillow at night for the tooth fairy to come, and can talk to themselves as and play alone as though they have an invisible friend.

    Preteens are the medium between children and teenagers. Height wise, they're in the middle of the two ages. They can still play with toys, sandboxes, and slides like children but they can also develop quasi-romances with other preteens and have crushes. They can also hang out with their friends, do a lot of things teenagers can do, such as work out to gain muscle and slow dance with others.

    These two ages are basically to bridge the toddlers with children and children with teens, and would add a tiny bit more realism.
  • MadameLeeMadameLee Posts: 32,750 Member
    @KlumsyKate I hate to tell you but toddlers in the Sims 4 sleep in a bed (a toddler one mind you but a bed)
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  • DannydanboDannydanbo Posts: 18,057 Member
    The gurus should start a Wishful Thinking Thread.
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