I've noticed lately that there are a lot of threads popping up about uninstalling the Sims 4 and also that there are many Simmers popping up in The Sims 3 GD section to say they're playing again (or for the first time).
Now I know there are many that still love and enjoy The Sims 4 and I think that's fantastic, but for those that have uninstalled, don't play, haven't played, have gone to a different iteration, or are simply waiting for the series to move on, I'm curious as to what made you get to the point? What's the main thing that made you stop and what would make you play again?
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I gave S4 a good run, I put in well over 2,000 hours. I was willing to play it as a 'different' game. I was willing to accept the 'new direction.' I just wasn't willing to continue on with new frustrations introduced each month. One month I'd play just fine. Next month I couldn't play because something I loved was glitched to high heaven. It would be fixed next month. I'd have to wait a whole month just so I could play again. Then next month something else was broken, ad nauseum. Next month a 'feature' was added that bothered me to no end, again and again. Antoher month, a feature I loved was removed, again and again. And again, something was always broken. I couldn't take it anymore.
All the while, the things I felt needed fixing never got fixed. Culling started to become an issue. Then relationship culling became an issue. Then a bug that was fixed reared it's ugly head again. Again: ad nauseum.
Playing started to make me angry. Thinking of playing started to make me angry. After a while, I realized being angry wasn't something I was looking for in a game and I quit cold turkey.
I couldn't play a game that didn't allow me to advance. I couldn't get attached to my sims because there was no point. Every month, something changed to alienate me further. By the time I gave up, I couldn't see a point in playing or getting attached to anything because it could all change in a heartbeat after the next patch, and no one cared. So, why should I?
It was hard at first because there were certain things I really did like about the game. New packs added things that 'did' interest me, but I fell into the mindset that no matter what they added it would do me no good because there were (and still are) issues I have with the basics of the game. Nothing will change that; nothing will fix that. I gave it enough chances, and all those chances did was frustrate me. It was time to put an end to the madness.
I'm a much happier person now.
Not only that but they're also incapable of actually reacting to something, it's like every time a sim interacts with another sim, each and every conversation is the first time, a sim that's furious with another can slap the hell of them one minute and the next they're having a friendly chat, or joking around.
And they're smiling, always smiling.
TS4 IMO is like someone bolted a fancy graphical UI onto a facebook game or tablet app, there's no depth there, no numbers behind the game, just a lifeless sham.
like this:
Only if you don't look too close, does the illusion maintain its integrity.
Heh. It worked for Clint Eastwood >.>
But yeah. I think they got too ambitious with what they could offer opposed to what they could let us build. Pretty sure I got your point though, I think... Maybe.
So I concentrated on gardening and getting to the top of the career such that I could start a new game and try something else. Then after a promotion the game suddenly told me that my sim now had to wait 14 days before it was possible to get him promoted again. This was too boring for me to even try.
I also investigated Outdoor Retreat a little. But there were not really anything of interest and the main game was boring. The gameplay also seemed to be about (too happy) partying which I weren't really into. The new emotions weren't any improvement anyway and the new multitasking was mostly annoying and about letting my sims waste a huge amount of time on things I didn't want them to do such that they would become too late for work or other things.
There were other things (like building a family, flirting and dating) that I would have tried too if the game had been better. But everything was so simplified, dumped down and easy (except for the boring waiting times) that I didn't think that this would be interesting either and just reading tho forum confirmed it. YouTube videos did the same. So I didn't care to even try it.
So I decided that this was a game which was different and which added new things which were more annoying than good. The earlier games were actually better (except for the graphics) and I didn't even play those old games anymore either. If the Sims 4had been an improvement of TS2 or TS3 I would have played it much more and bought many more expansions. But instead it was a trivial annoying and boring version of the Sims games with simplifications and about building boring collections or just watching parties instead of playing an interesting and challenging game. So I stopped playing it and I don't think that anything could bring me back. Therefore I am now just waiting to see if the Sims 5 will become a better game.
That said, I really enjoy CAS in Sims 4 and making different types of sims, everything is really smooth and easy. I will be playing from time to time for a little, but the gameplay is seriously lacking. And the thing is, I don't see it improving because what? They are going to get rid of the emotions just like that? It is what it is now.
Maybe it's because my great love of the series has always been TS3 (which is in a whole different direction of the rest Sims games), but I don't think I'll ever enjoy TS4 like TS3.
As to the why, there are many reasons. I don't like the sims, I don't like their behaviour, I don't like how they interact with others, I don't like the emotion system, I don't like the multitasking, I don't like building, I don't like the repetitive and dull ideas the game comes up with (buy a toy buy a toy buy a toy you childless sim without a love interest who happens to be a family person), but mainly I don't feel this energy while playing that pushes me further and further, forgetting time. It's very much a 'what now... what shall I make her do... what next' experience for me.
My Recent 'stop playing' was because of one small reason back in start of December, I'm Just out of ideas how to play the game.
But now i'm continue playing the game since last Thursday but out of ideas again. After this month, i just taking hiatus as the game continues to improve a little or the next EP came out.
I was gifted late 2015 with the base game. I didn't buy the game before because I've known about the lack of toddlers. After knowing that, I didn't look At anything about the game. Early 2016, I decided to try: More than a year had passed, surely the sims devs would not have been so negligent to not have released them, no?
Wrong.
Not only toddlers still weren't there! babyes were vasically a import of the sims1 with recycled stuff from the sims medieval!!! But before knowing this, I already had the bad Experience in create a sim: No colour Wheel. No colur palette. And most important For me, hair didn't have the colur independent from the hairstyle: If I wanted a certain hair colour, I was forced to a certain style. I actually unistalled the game thinking I had downloaded the demo in a moment of distraction. No. The game really didn't want me to have the chance to customize My sims as I wanted.
That was already depressing. What was worse, was that not only the baby stage was terribly boring, one life stage was completely amiss, the House was a prison between loading screens: Genetics didn't work one bit: I had four babyes in game, and none had the parents genetics traits. Why even bother letting my sims reproduce?
I stopped playng, and returned to the sims3. I decided to give another try the the sims 4 when I decided to buy a very cheap get to work in easter.
I could somehow stomac the lack of freedom for hair and eye colour (barely), and I didn't want to believe My beloved the sims had regressed so much, that it seemed to deserve the number 1.5 and surely not 4!!! I must have missed something, and surely toddler would be on their way At this Point!
Depressingly, nothing changed: The active careers were terrible: The stuff to do was unconsequential and had no logic (a father level 4 had the same stuff to do in the scientist career as the daughter, level one. The chores were completely randomic.) and the shops where in other lots away from home, so I had no control over the family I Left At home. And of Course loading screen everywhere.
But what really had me ragequit and uninstall the game were the sims themselves: The emotions were nothing more than over the top moodlets, most of the time triggered without any kind of logic.( Most of the time my sims just had the flirty mood and I still have no idea why.) plus, the trats were basically absent. Sims had no preference in any camp, and that felt terribly boring. Both to find them a companion, and developing their personality.
And the.plum.multasking. Sweet Andraste that really did it: I was looking forward to multitasking: having my sims finally aswer the Phone without stopping doing stuff, or greeting someone while Reading etc! But NO!!! It had to be more of a nuisance than anything! Hours and hours and hours just to eat a toast!! No way to talk with only one sim!!! so much time to do anything!!!
I didn't play enought to see others horrors like culling and all the Others shortcomings of this game. May 1st I unistalled the game, after having played 46 hours. From that moment, I added more than 5000 hours to the sims 3, and 4 expansions.
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P.S. Sorry forgot to mention that I have gone back to Sims 2 & 3 cause of the Sims 4 mess.
There is no life. No clothing or grocery shopping. No laundry. No toddlers and anything substantial or life altering. Nothing your sims do or say to their children (or anyone else for that matter) is meaningful. I want how I play the game to matter and have an effect on my town.
Right now as many people have said, all sims play the same and relationships are meaningless. Traits are shallow and don't really make any difference. There are no consequences because there are no memories. It's a very robotic world that looks pretty but is lacking.
I don't want to play weird stories and maybe that means this game isn't for me. But I think omitting meaningful family play and the everyday aspects of life in favor of wacky jobs, crazy parties, oversized goofy items and outlandish yet shallow emotions is a mistake. I think the basics should have been added first and foremost because this was marketed as a life simulator first.
Then patched, which said it was fixed. That's fine. Except then I started to get this weird nose on 50% of males born in the game. It didn't belong to either parent and would happen between non-related families. So that sort of blew my interest in generational play (beyond the fact that there are very few interations).
So then my interest waned and to top it off 'emotions' were driving me crazy. They cycled too much, they didn't MEAN anything. Objects triggered emotions over and over again and I realized that my sims actually didn't have a personality at all, they were just reacting to triggers from objects.
SO, I gave up. I never re-installed it on my PC when I got a new HD. I still have it on my laptop, but the last time I tried to play I was so limited with CAS (no opacity, no customization, few skin colours, few hair colours, few eye colours, limited facial ranges). I just can't. And the fact that there is no SP so to speak. Poor SP was one of the MAJOR reasons that I jumped to MODS in TS3, but that was 'fixable'. I tried TS4 to get something similar, but I just can't. In any way.
So here we are! I get discouraged too when I see EP after EP, (and gp and SP's) that are all basically empty and void of any interesting game content. I can DL a million times better CC objects from awesome creators out there. But the gameplay interactions are missing. I hoped for vastly improved genetics and customization of the gameplay and sims themselves. Its just let down after let down, so I stopped playing.
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I swear for the life of me that there wasn't this much upset for The Sims 3.
I think it's quite sad that 2 years (and a bit in), there's still game breaking bugs, lack of life stages, the omission of different types of play styles, and the lack of customisation. It really boggles my mind.
I think perhaps - and someone else said this - that Sims 4 (although there seems to be some good features) should have preceeded Sims 3. I definitely agree that Sims 4 might just be pretty to look at (though I'm not fond of the artstyle) but there's no real depth behind it.
The core of the game should be solid and with expansions and other packs, they should be able to build upon that foundation.
Sims 4 should have come after Sims 1 because that's as far back as they went with what they took out. And Sims 1 is still a better game. So maybe it should be a prequel to 1.
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I think, with the holiday season here, I wanted to play seasons and Winter and have gift giving. But also, in general, I still feel as though there isn't much to do in ts4. I am not a fan of the semi-closed world because I like to be able to flit from sim to sim in different places and control exactly what each one does.
I do like aspects of ts4, which is why I will probably play it again every now and then, but there is still so much missing which I do not believe will ever get added. TS3 has a lot of what I want and only a few things missing whereas it is the other way around with ts4.
THIS.
Funny thing is, 4 was my first ever sims experience.. it's been off and on every since. I bought CL but the constant duplicates from the library walking around and the resetting-when-eating glitch did it for me... now I'm off again. I'm too busy with a Sunset Valley custom world (with the routing issues fixed) to care.
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@Animebleachfan, welcome to the forums. This thread is directed to those simmers who no longer play Sims 4. You may want to check out the General Discussion and Expansion Pack forums.
In general, it's hard for me to do long play sessions because the repetition wears on me.
It's possible that some of it is my own fault and I'm trying to be a cat herder crafting a perfect fantasy, rather than letting the structure of the game and my own whims do some leading.