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Deep Fryer machine is not working
jessica00021
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Is anyone else having problems with the deep fryer machine is not cooking the food. Everytime I make one of sim cook something it does not appear at all ????
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http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/533707.page
Where?
It's a store item.
Not really anything to do with Showtime but, eh.
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/533959.page
One thing I have discovered is you can control the sims constantly eating just fried stuff or ice cream by making the kitchen much closer to them than these appliances. I placed mine in an outdoor kitchen where my party sims hold their parties and cookouts. Now they don't have to cook and everyone eats, but because it is a walk to get there, the sims will choose the kitchen appliances to eat when they are in the house and not partying - not all - but most of the time. Also the more cooking skills your sims have the less they seem to rely on just those two appliances - but again if you use cheats to raise their cooking skill - then it is as if they have no cooking skills. Unfortunately they have to do things the hard way by cooking and studying.
But if yours does not work - first I suggest you uninstall them - then go re-download and re-install them to make sure you have a good download. If they still don't work - make sure you do not have testing cheats enable, buydebug on, or the sims moods are not static - if none of that is in your game then it is your mods interfering with the new programming. Don't forget - new programming is the same thing as getting an update - so things are going to be more inclined not to work right if you have mods with new programming regardless if it is just one tiny little item. It's new programming if they don't have anything like this in the game previously.
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This might be easier
So, if players are using the Static Motives "cheat" and have the Autonomy turned to High (High Free Will), there is a chance that your Sims' will behave as if they are OBSESSED with Ice Cream and Deep Fried Foods (almost like how I am in real life...). Anyway, this can be bothersome for several reasons.
One way to stop the obsession is for the player who is using the static motives cheat to reduce the autonomy to Low or turn it off all together (Low Free Will or OFF). This can be done in the options menu. You still will experience much of the same type of game play (not exact, but close), without the junk food addiction on the part of your Sims.
Because these items advertise for both FUN AND HUNGER NEEDS, they are AWESOME for parties, but might be bothersome when you are playing a game where static motives and high autonomy are required.
Hope this helps!
Does the EA team consider it a bug when vampires autonomously use the ice cream machine and deep fryer and eat non-vampire food? Or were they designed as an exception for vampires? I've been wondering about that, ever since it was reported that vampires use both of them.
EDIT: I don't have vampires, so I cannot test their interactions.
For example: I have my sim make Maple Bacon fried ice cream and that is the only command. He goes through all the steps of frying the bacon, making the ice cream in the ice cream machine, then frying it and then takes it to the table and eats. If I give him a command to say, read a book to follow up after eating at any point while he is making the fried maple bacon ice cream the command to make the ice cream disappears as does the food at whatever stage he is in making it and he goes to read the book.
I also have this happen if a need pops up while they are in the process of doing anything with the fryer. For example, my sim needed to sleep but was still a bit green in that need when I sent him for a fried candy bar before bed. He was in the process of frying when the bed command pop up generated by the fact that his sleep need had dropped to yellow, the food disappeared and off to bed he went.
One heck of a diet plan !
Until they get this fixed my sims won't be eating fried food. :roll: No problems w/ice cream maker, thank heaven.
I have 3 of Twallans mods, one of which is errortrap..... I will be sure to see if any dump files are created for the fryer now....
So far, so good.
One of the threads was the one Amjoie has further down - here's where we started - if you notice Amjoie found the problem initially as i was NOT having any problems in my first post - but wanted to try and help her find the problem - http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/533568.page#8373550
Amjoie, I read about that Vamp situation too. I'm not playing with Vamps either at present - but I really don't know if they made any kind of exception for the vamps. Previously when I did play them - although sometimes regular food made them sick - and generally my vamp never went for regular food if there was plasma fruit or juice to be had - so that I would think they might see as a bug, if the Vamps are not even going after the plasma. I know I played that Vampire family from Bridgeport for a while and their toddler ate regular food, but both of those vamps used to get sick on regular food. Plus it did not seem to last very long compared to sims. It was okay if they were starving - but... I just have no idea.
Gem - I am just telling what some other people have stated and even Twallan said he knew they were not quite right yet - and that was before this reaction with the fryer and ice cream maker. I did not make it so - I also use Twallans OW and ET and have not reinstalled them since he mentioned he still has problems yet in his thread. No he didn't tell me personally - before you ask - it was in the info on his site. I understand he just released another MC, I think it was, today - but I have not been over there. I been up to my nose in medical tests all afternoon and evening. Sorry. I just got back in here about 15 minutes ago. We had dinner like quarter past 10 pm. I've been straight out all day.
I also do not know if Twallan knows about the reactions with the new fryer and ice maker. They are new programming that the game did not have before. So his mods just may have to be tweaked for that too. I don't know. I know the Sims Team are already looking into it and the only thing - without mods - I can attest repeatedly happens is sims ignor the command when you cancel out the action even if they are no where even near the fryer or ice cream maker when you cancel it. They will continue as if you never cancelled it at all, will cook the food and eat it. Nothing stops them.
So in my view the Sims team needs to first stop that behavior - beefore Twallan could test his mods for a problem. Who's to say EA fixing it - might be enough that Twallan mods won't bother them or not then. The sims are ignoring base game commands - and that is not good.
Plus it sets them up as Amjoie discovered to get glitched terribly - especially if certain situations involving game cheats, like making sims motives static is used on the sims. Other have found other cheats creating a similar situation too.
I am simply stating what we saw while testing these items in various households under various different situations - as well as posts else where as well.
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Forgot to mention that I had to reinstall my store stuff , as i t seems i broke something by deleting stuff i didn't want, and i haven't tested my PC after that. I'm planning on doing that later today by placing all of them in a lot with two sims and have them play with them.
About the mods now. I do not have any issues with OW, MC or MC cheats, or at least nothing bad enough to be noticable or game breaking.
I did have issues with simfests resetting themselfs due to SP and how it handles the new proffesiosn, and it's not capable of doing so yet thus reverting sims back to normal careers and borking propretors and simfests. This was said by Twallan himself. DD or Tangie mentioned that with version 218 this was "fixed" but Twallan said that he hadn't yet looked into this, so probably one of the fixes in v218 was making things with simfests a bit more stable.
Sims fests do work with v218, but i got immidiate staggerring and freezing when i got it and a hard freeze and a crash during a simfest. I did have that issue before, but more often, and simfests would never complete succesfully.
I got now v220 that seems way more stable no staggering or freezing so far, but i haven't tested sim fests yet, and in general i'm still testing the mod and trying to gather as much info as possible for Twallan as he still haven't really worked on SP to make it handle the new professions.
So as far as i know, the mods are compatible with ST , but just to the point of not crashing the game (SP excluded as i haven't tested it enough yet)They are not yet able to handle and change the ST code, apart form a few simple things, and those are Twallan's words.
I'm still using them (MC, MC cheats and OW are the ones i'm more confident with , as i've played with them and ST for quite a while and didn't notice any issues) but I'm more cautious with SP, as I DO know it cannot handle the new careers yet, and I'm mostly testing it , and with the first hickup it's the first thing i take out and try again.
2- Cancelling the action once the sims has the thing in their que - will not stop the sim. It will show the action is cancelled but the sims will continue anyway to the fryer or ice cream maker and make the food they had planned, even though I had given them an order to make something on their stove. They will proceed to make the food at the stove only after they have made their food at the ice cream maker or fryer and have eaten them. Of course I then cancel the making of the stove food, and they instantly stop - as they should.
Those are the two things i can verify. I can verify the more cooking skills the sims have the less likely they are as attracted to the two new appliances. I can attest that using a cheat to make sims comply to the cancelling of their action will glitch the sims as Amjoie's sim was glitched in the beginning of our thread - also setting a sim to static motive will glitch a sim in the same manner. Game cheats should not cause sims to glitch like that - in my book anyway they shouldn't. It is an indication that something is not quite as fluid as it should be with these items and the games programming - which then turn testing cheats into game failures. But in all honesty it is just my assumption that this is what may be happening.
Either way as a responsible tester - at least I try to be - as I like others to be able to depend on my testing of things - I cannot use any mod to test EA stuff to start with - especially even a useful mod like Error trap that does tell me a lot of things to look for when testing worlds - I can't use it if it's creator says it is not 100 per cent compatiable with the game yet - other wise my testing of these items would be unreliable. As we have seen just with the ST careers and simfests - the mods create bad situations that are not present in the game without them. But I agree, when Twallan has these things running right they are a huge asset to the game. I miss them. I really do. I hate having to go around looking for lost sims, or having to constantly delete cars, shut off stereos and all the other thing Overwatch does - I now have to do - and believe me - overwatch does it way better than I do. But I just can't chance the mod creating other problems with the content I am testing.
I do believe those mods cause problems with the sims not taking their food out of the fryer, as I have only seen this in games where one of Twallans mods were being used - like SP, MC, OW, or ET. It may or maynot be the cause of the bug in the programming for these items - so until The sims team get that tweaked, we cannot possibly test if Twallans mods really has a problem with these items.
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For now i'll continue testing SP, and as i said above with the first hickup, it's the first think i'm taking out and try again
I have not tested anything myself with me being away an all but while there will always be issues that need to be ironed out if you use any of twallan's mods, I can't really believe that ErrorTrap is actually causing any of the Fryer Issues.
So unless someone can show me a post by twallan where he says that his mods are actually causing issues with the PC, I don't believe his mods are the issue. There seems to be one issue with SP and the voodoo doll but other than that, I've not found a statement over at his wiki where he actaully said his mods were causing problems.
But that's just my opinion without testing or throughly reading here or at twallan's wiki. Of course there's still issues in the mods (there probably always will be) but I'm really curious to know what issues WR is referring to exactly.
As geminiagre said, SP is not set up for the new careers which can lead to to issues but what's wrong with OW ?
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Otherwise I have no clue what you are assuming I have been saying. I know what ET does - I depend on ET a whole lot while testing worlds for other simmers as it makes my job a whole lot easier - and right now I do not feel it is ready for use until Twallan is sure it is fully intuned to ST seeing I have ST.
I fully believe in my heart when Twallan has those mods fully insych with ST - that they will not have or cause a problem with this content. At least that is what I hope as doing all the work OW does and having to not have ET for testing worlds is a real inconvenience as far as I am concerned and I miss them terribly - but I cannot use them and properly test anything if they are not working 100 per cent.
It may be just a coincidence that additional problems incurred in this use of this PC and users having at least one of those mods - as one did report they just had Error trap - so I report it as a possibile additional problem and I start getting grief for it. I suppose I could just stop testing and reporting anything. And I probably should if this is an example.
Heaven knows I did not know trying to help others would be so hard - but I am just not well enough to keep having to be stressed out like this over simply reporting what I have thoroughly tested and found without getting the third degree.
I'm done!
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I simply said that I don't believe that ErrorTrap is causing the Fryer issues but simply showing that there is a problem in the first place and was asking if you could point me to somewhere where Twallan said what issues there still are.
My statement what ET does was for everyone here that does not read his forum on a regular basis.
I said I did not test anything and since I've been on vacation, I'm badly behind on reading, so I was hoping you could save me some searching time.
I understand your reasons for not using twallan's mods and I was never questioning that. I test vanilla when I want to find errors, that's how you do it. All I'm saying is that I don't believe that Twallan's mods cause the issue unless HE actaully says so. That's just my point of view and there's no reason getting worked up about it.
Do you feel I was rude to you ? If so, I apologize, I never intended that (keep in mind, that english is not my mother tongue).
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